Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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If you went to live in any other country in the world, apart from Ireland, then exactly the same would apply to you. If anybody from outside of the EU went to live in an EU country, they would also be faced with the same issues. The question is do you consider that racist. I know that you do, and in the pure definition of the word you have an argument. But for me, you need to be able to distinguish between that sort of discrimination, and the sort of behaviour that led to the production of that notice.

I would regard that as wrong, yes, and it's not only from a moral standpoint, but from a practical standpoint too. It's silly to think that a mandarin somewhere knows more about the circumstances of a migrant, whether personal, professional or their living situation, than the individuals themselves, and the evidence bares that out, but the evidence is ignored because of this phobia people have about people who are supposedly different. The saddest thing is, the stamp on our passport really doesn't distinguish us as much as we think.
 
Got to give it to them.
A second referendum/cancelling brexit looked odds on.
Johnson somehow pulled it out of the bag.




It was his last chance if doing it with the election and he did it despite all of the possibilities of delaying or cancelling it.
 
Only you already have made your views and political leanings known mate, but you’ve either forgotten or you’re just a hypocrite.

Down with the pesky search function.

You’re a nasty piece of work FLHD, IMHO of course.

Stay out of Politics. We’ve enough stirrers as it is without the likes of you joining their ranks.

And have a word with your shadow, Charlie whomever.
 
You’re a nasty piece of work FLHD, IMHO of course.

Stay out of Politics. We’ve enough stirrers as it is without the likes of you joining their ranks.

And have a word with your shadow, Charlie whomever.
Nasty for calling you out as an transparent hypocrite?

Stay out of politics? What’s up mate, are my opinions not allowed in your new fascist utopia?

You’re a cry arsing beaut mate, IMHO of course.
 
You're so right and wrong at the same time that I truly admire this post. I never thought it could be done.

If your life has been adversely affected by any of the issues you have seen on tonight's thread, you have my sincere sympathies and I do not wish to mock

But... the making light? Don't go in the jokes thread. The disabled get it (especially the wooded legged), the Irish AND the blondes. They even have a pop at a female who plays golf with her foo foo.
You’re a nasty piece of work FLHD, IMHO of course.

Stay out of Politics. We’ve enough stirrers as it is without the likes of you joining their ranks.

And have a word with your shadow, Charlie whomever.

What?!?!

I respect any opinion just prefer if its backed up by facts and comes with respect the other way. Especially on a debating forum. Would you prefer we had a system where we only discussed issues you found comfortable?
 
What?!?!

I respect any opinion just prefer if its backed up by facts and comes with respect the other way. Especially on a debating forum. Would you prefer we had a system where we only discussed issues you found comfortable?
Erm, what did I do? Maybe something was lost in the written form. No disrespect meant, just a bad stab at humour. In a different thread.

Have a nice week.
 
The same people might in 10/15 years do a 180 if it means they can get a head start on the futures market by the UK rejoining (should the EU still be functioning and generally doing better than us)

Course they would mate.

Which kind of shows what I was trying to say, in that they're as much exploiters of the situation as causers of it. They doubtless pushed at the door to help get what they wanted, but people who are looking to blame them should be looking closer at the dismal campaign run by the various Remain camps, who showed a ridiculous arrogance in not really believing the public would vote to leave.

As an aside, Crispin Odey is often put forward as someone who made millions with his hedge fund on the Brexit result, which is true, but it's only part of the story. If you look at his fund's performance, it did really well until about 2015, and really well between 2007 and 2015. But it's lost about 10% in the last 12 months, is about break even over three years and has lost money over a five year period. So basically, his win on the Brexit result has since been wiped out, and he did much, much better before the referendum was called, which basically shows you

a ) Should recognise that facts in isolation don't tell the whole story and
b ) Shouldn't trust anyone called Crispin with your money


See the following for more info

 
Course they would mate.

Which kind of shows what I was trying to say, in that they're as much exploiters of the situation as causers of it. They doubtless pushed at the door to help get what they wanted, but people who are looking to blame them should be looking closer at the dismal campaign run by the various Remain camps, who showed a ridiculous arrogance in not really believing the public would vote to leave.

As an aside, Crispin Odey is often put forward as someone who made millions with his hedge fund on the Brexit result, which is true, but it's only part of the story. If you look at his fund's performance, it did really well until about 2015, and really well between 2007 and 2015. But it's lost about 10% in the last 12 months, is about break even over three years and has lost money over a five year period. So basically, his win on the Brexit result has since been wiped out, and he did much, much better before the referendum was called, which basically shows you

a ) Should recognise that facts in isolation don't tell the whole story and
b ) Shouldn't trust anyone called Crispin with your money


See the following for more info

I’d wager (no pun intended) that he had plenty riding on short positions around the October leaving date.

Shame he took a bath on that. Oh well.
 
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