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The quotas of fish the Europeans like more than UK people desire .....I am on about fishing territories that we may want to negotiate back - if there's no money in it the EU will let us have it all back then quotas will be a thing of the past as we will be out of the EU - I cannot see us negotiating for the status quo in a trade deal can you ?
A new trade deal where both sides are competitive and fair with each other the trade deal is forecast to have a bit of friction in it .......not a level playing field fair and competitive the car industry will have a level field ....after that it's a minefield, it should have been negotiating alongside the withdrawal bill imo
May made a Horlicks of it .......
However, if Mr Johnson is to secure a trade deal with Brussels, he will be forced to sacrifice British fisheries to do so according to Dominic Walsh, policy analyst for Open Europe.

He said: “The promises on fishing in the Conservative manifesto were vague, and leave Johnson with room to manoeuvre.

“All it said was that the UK would ‘take back control’ of our fishing waters; that doesn’t rule out reaching an agreement to allow EU fishing boats access to UK waters.

“Such an agreement is the price the Government will have to pay for a trade deal with the EU.

Roh oh.
 
However, if Mr Johnson is to secure a trade deal with Brussels, he will be forced to sacrifice British fisheries to do so according to Dominic Walsh, policy analyst for Open Europe.

He said: “The promises on fishing in the Conservative manifesto were vague, and leave Johnson with room to manoeuvre.

“All it said was that the UK would ‘take back control’ of our fishing waters; that doesn’t rule out reaching an agreement to allow EU fishing boats access to UK waters.

“Such an agreement is the price the Government will have to pay for a trade deal with the EU.

Roh oh.

It almost begs the question of whether the government are making such a song and dance about fishing as it's one of the few areas they can probably do something on by December, so lets all focus on that while they balls up the rest of the economy by forcing us out before adequate steps have been taken.
 
Gonna be some serious payback for the small minded xenophobes in the north east and Lancashire. London and the south east will be fine and looked after. The whole thing is total madness.
 
However, if Mr Johnson is to secure a trade deal with Brussels, he will be forced to sacrifice British fisheries to do so according to Dominic Walsh, policy analyst for Open Europe.

He said: “The promises on fishing in the Conservative manifesto were vague, and leave Johnson with room to manoeuvre.

“All it said was that the UK would ‘take back control’ of our fishing waters; that doesn’t rule out reaching an agreement to allow EU fishing boats access to UK waters.

“Such an agreement is the price the Government will have to pay for a trade deal with the EU.

Roh oh.
It's will happen in a blink. Traded off before you can say Pollocks. Have little sympathy for commercial fishing be that British or European, greedy gets.
 
Have you seen this from 'the Saj?
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Further proof that the whole thing is being run by incompetent careerists. The UK is doomed.
 
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Have you seen this from 'the Saj?



Further proof that the whole thing is being run by incompetent careerists. The UK is doomed.

Plus this frankly bizarre fixation among Tories who pretend they're in favour of small government, except when it comes to allowing people the freedom to live and work where they want. Then they come over all Stalinist instead. That some of the worst offenders are those whose parents would have suffered the kind of discrimination they're now foisting onto others makes it even worse.
 


Plus this frankly bizarre fixation among Tories who pretend they're in favour of small government, except when it comes to allowing people the freedom to live and work where they want. Then they come over all Stalinist instead. That some of the worst offenders are those whose parents would have suffered the kind of discrimination they're now foisting onto others makes it even worse.
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Their parents are not from the class they serve, when you lack empathy life must be very simple for them
 
Their parents are not from the class they serve, when you lack empathy life must be very simple for them

I could understand it, and indeed support it, if they were saying it's not enough that free movement extends to EU citizens, it should be something open to all citizens, but they're not doing that. I was talking to a population guy from Harvard t'other week, and in much of the western world, the challenge is largely one of depopulation. I don't think a single developed country has a birth rate high enough to maintain its population naturally, and when you look at a local level, a lot of the problem with small towns is that people are leaving them to find opportunities elsewhere.

This marks a big shift, as in the 1970s it was the opposite, as cities were seen as a bit crappy, and people flooded out of them to the towns and rural areas, but now the reverse is happening, which is resulting in rural communities becoming increasingly depopulated, with generally older people remaining. Fewer people means fewer amenities, and general decline. The ironic thing is, for many of these communities, having an influx of migrants could actually help, but those communities rejected the migrants instead because, presumably, they weren't indigenous enough.
 
I could understand it, and indeed support it, if they were saying it's not enough that free movement extends to EU citizens, it should be something open to all citizens, but they're not doing that. I was talking to a population guy from Harvard t'other week, and in much of the western world, the challenge is largely one of depopulation. I don't think a single developed country has a birth rate high enough to maintain its population naturally, and when you look at a local level, a lot of the problem with small towns is that people are leaving them to find opportunities elsewhere.

This marks a big shift, as in the 1970s it was the opposite, as cities were seen as a bit crappy, and people flooded out of them to the towns and rural areas, but now the reverse is happening, which is resulting in rural communities becoming increasingly depopulated, with generally older people remaining. Fewer people means fewer amenities, and general decline. The ironic thing is, for many of these communities, having an influx of migrants could actually help, but those communities rejected the migrants instead because, presumably, they weren't indigenous enough.
This was the reasoning IIRC (at least partly) for Merkel opening Germany’s borders to the refugee influx in 2015
 
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