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[Disgruntledgoat]

Typical Tory, arrogantly thought the remain vote was going to piss it.

He had, to be fair, already campaigned and won 2 referendums as Prime Minister.

Corbyn had to walk a fine line throughout the 2016 campaign however as a man who's philosophy as a politician has featured opposing the EU and a visceral hatred of Tories for the last 40 years.

Corbyn disappeared during that campaign. He refused to stand on any stage with the Prime Minister decrying him as an extremist (meanwhile appearing with Raed Salah, who most assuredly is an extremist and anti semite), went on holiday for 2 weeks and then went on Sky News and gave a list of why people would vote leave. His paradox is that he had to appear friendly enough towards European integration not to alienate his youth and middle class vote whilst remaining cool enough on it not to enrage Labour's traditional vote or be seen to be anything other than hostile to Cameron.

 

[Davidoff]

A tory majority at the impending election and the implementation of a likely hard Brexit will see the break up of the Union. Johnson’s smirky, dismissive response to Ian Blackford just now, along with the NI issue will cause irreversible divisions.

 

[Xizor]

has BoJo got children?

Not sure if serious...

Yes, but nobody knows for sure how many or who he had them with.

 

[Joey66]

I don’t repeat uneducated daily mail sound bites ..

What I post may be crap, but at least they’re my own thoughts and not parroted bigoted rhetoric that you seem to post

At least I don't post as a bully boy.......

 

[The binman chronicles]

I think this is utter nonsense sorry. The brexit vote was anti establishment so having an establishment leader of Labour campaigning alongside the PM who was in the middle of enacting brutal austerity at the same time would've made zero difference, not least swinging over 1 million votes the other way ffs

The blame lies solely with Cameron/the tories

This is just abject wrongness.

”Any other” Labour leader would probably have generated more Labour leave voters by appearing on the same stage as Cameron, Osborne and the like. Corbyn at least came up with an argument for remain that he and Labour could live with, which reminded people how important EU migrants are and which didn’t pretend that everything was tickety-boo.

If you want to blame any Labour figures for the referendum, you’d be better off looking at the people who first called for and promised one years earlier, who spent ages talking about the “immigration problem” (including during the bloody referendum campaign) and who kept chirping at their leader whilst he was trying to help them out of the mess they made.

The fact you both can't see how this could be the case is enough for me not to invest anytime worrying about the validity of my argument. Because like I wrote, the Corbyn supporters can't see any wrongdoings in their eyes.

Of course Cameron started this by calling the referendum to try and heal a divided Tory party, but the weakness of the Corbyn led Labour party has allowed everything since. If he is so convinced by a customs union/single market access now then he should have campaigned for remain at the referendum. It could and should have made a difference to Labour leave voters if he had personally reached out to them and made it clear what would happen to jobs and security at that point. However he was as aloof as he could be during that campaign. To give him his dues recently he has been on point, a day late and a dollar short springs to mind though.

 

[Kurt.]

At least I don't post as a bully boy.......

Oh here we go..... Joey playing the victim once again..... you’re pathetic mate, you’ve been giving it out on here for weeks but cry like a bitch when you get it back.... pathetic.

 

[neil999]

hahaha...turn on PMQ's it looks like priti patel is sitting down when answering questions...she so tiny

 

[arminisgod]

Whether you like JOhnson or not.. he completely wipes the floor with Corbyn at PMQD. Corbyn is an utter embarrasment. I can't vote for him at all.

 

[Jebus_lives]

has BoJo got children?

 

[Walken]

Whether you like JOhnson or not.. he completely wipes the floor with Corbyn at PMQD. Corbyn is an utter embarrasment. I can't vote for him at all.

I'd be more embarrassed being a racist crooked liar than being supposedly poor on a stage

 

[arminisgod]

I'd be more embarrassed being a racist crooked liar than being supposedly poor on a stage

yeah but the other is a racist towards Jews and a terrorist sympathiser...

 

[orchard]

 

[peteblue]

The fact you both can't see how this could be the case is enough for me not to invest anytime worrying about the validity of my argument. Because like I wrote, the Corbyn supporters can't see any wrongdoings in their eyes.

Of course Cameron started this by calling the referendum to try and heal a divided Tory party, but the weakness of the Corbyn led Labour party has allowed everything since. If he is so convinced by a customs union/single market access now then he should have campaigned for remain at the referendum. It could and should have made a difference to Labour leave voters if he had personally reached out to them and made it clear what would happen to jobs and security at that point. However he was as aloof as he could be during that campaign. To give him his dues recently he has been on point, a day late and a dollar short springs to mind though.

Both May and Corbyn went awol during the referendum. Only Boris actually stuck his neck out, and indeed probably carried the vote. Leave or Remain, Tory or Labour, Boris is the only leader we have because the first two weren’t/aren’t.....

 

[Joey66]

Oh here we go..... Joey playing the victim once again..... you’re pathetic mate, you’ve been giving it out on here for weeks but cry like a bitch when you get it back.... pathetic.

OK Harry Flashman......

 

[Kurt.]

OK Harry Flashman......

Another enlightening post