Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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absolutely disgusting to compare whats happening here to actual fascist regimes.

If you're in favour of the government's current activities then you have absolutely no platform to stand on when it comes to lecturing others on being disgusted. None. Where do you think 'actual fascist regimes' come from? A group of nutters just appears with guns and everyone has to do what they say? They just magic into existence on the whim of a Sith? Jog on son, it all starts somewhere.

I find it absolutely disgusting that people in this country are cheering on the dismantling of our democracy in pursuit of a goal of dubious benefit that is absolutely salivated over by an unholy alliance of racists and the elites who are hiding their cash from just taxation.

Mr Tash, and likely yourself, should feel absolutely ashamed at the dangers you're supporting being directed at society, but instead you try to hide it behind mock outrage at comparisons to the way other states slid from an open and free democracy to darkness.

No time for your hollow 'disgust'. None whatsoever.
 
I think that like most plans and ideas how this can be sorted out, its dead weird. If not disingenuous.

My understanding of it is this. I may be wrong mind.

Their policy will be to promise a 2nd referendum, with an as yet unknown and most likely impossible (see Irish border as exhibit A) leave deal as one option, and Remain as the other. But will then campaign for Remain.

Sorry, but if I am correct, thats an impossible position to defend. In a fence sitting way.


I will give you my take on it, Roydo......I think it is a perfectly logical position.

Labour know that we cannot improve on our current “deal”....full EU membership.

Nobody can.

But they will “honour” the Referendum result by going to Brussels and doing as good a deal as is possible.

They will then put that option to the populace.....pitched against Remain.

They won’t promise unicorns gambolling in sunlit uplands by advocating the deal they know to be inferior but will instead recommend staying in.

In short.....a clearly defined and attainable version of Brexit versus Remain in the European Union.

Which as the past three years of mayhem have shown us, is precisely what should have been the choice in June 2916.
 
absolutely disgusting to compare whats happening here to actual fascist regimes.
The party that got the most votes in the U.K. euro elections is led by an actual racist though.
Always find it funny that people start moaning about being called racist or when comparisons are made regarding our current political climate to fascism, yet they have voted for a racist and voted as part of a racist ideology.
 
So the two leading lights of the Leave campaign Farage and Gove together have comments on the record that should end forever the accusations that Remainers are "sore losers" and should just accept the democratic will of the poeple and secondly that of course everyone knew they were voting for No Deal!

Nigel Farage - 17th May 2016 - said the following in an interview with the Daily Mirror:

"In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it."

Michael Gove - Writing in the Daily Mail in March 2019 - said: "Some may say that ditching (Theresa May's negotiated) deal will allow us to leave without any compromises.

"But we didn’t vote to leave without a deal. That wasn’t the message of the campaign I helped lead. During that campaign, we said we should do a deal with the EU and be part of the network of free trade deals that covers all Europe, from Iceland to Turkey.

"Leaving without a deal on March 29 would not honour that commitment. It would undoubtedly cause economic turbulence. Almost everyone in this debate accepts that."
 
I’d rather just have an absolute monarchy, with the queen/king making all the decisions. At least we would know we we all stood and wouldn’t have to put up with all this. Cromwell has a lot to answer for.
 
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