Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Methuselah]

So short to.medium term you concede we will be economically worse off? I missed that bit in the Leave propaganda before the referendum.....

As for independence and sovereignty, as the esteemed poster above has already asked, what actually are you talking about? What day to day issues are you taking about?

For what it's worth I quite like having a European Court of Justice and I'm used to my business life being effected by unelected bureaucrats like the Governor of the Bank Of England but you go on and explain please?

Where did I concede that we will be economically worse off?

By independence and sovereignty I mean that we are not subject to the bureaucratic and authoritarian rulings of the undemocratic EU.


Charlie, you keep asking questions which are totally irrelevant to the issue. You ask me to explain why you quite like having a ECJ and then advise me that your business life is effected by the Bank of England. Sorry, but I don't even understand the question.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Where did I concede that we will be economically worse off?

By independence and sovereignty I mean that we are not subject to the bureaucratic and authoritarian rulings of the undemocratic EU.


Charlie, you keep asking questions which are totally irrelevant to the issue. You ask me to explain why you quite like having a ECJ and then advise me that your business life is effected by the Bank of England. Sorry, but I don't even understand the question.

Well apologies. I certainly read your words as conceding a bleak economic future in the short and medium term. You said you didn't think "we would be any worse off in the long term".

These "bureaucratic and authoritarian rulings of the undemocratic EU" sound terrible. Can you give me an example please?

I mentioned the European Court of Justice because it is unelected and "foreign" but I like it. I referenced the Governor of the Bank of England as he too is unelected but "British" and I have to put up with him.

 

[Methuselah]

Well apologies. I certainly read your words as conceding a bleak economic future in the short and medium term. You said you didn't think "we would be any worse off in the long term".

These "bureaucratic and authoritarian rulings of the undemocratic EU" sound terrible. Can you give me an example please?

I mentioned the European Court of Justice because it is unelected and "foreign" but I like it. I referenced the Governor of the Bank of England as he too is unelected but "British" and I have to put up with him.

Er, the Governor of the Bank of England is a Canadian citizen.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Er, the Governor of the Bank of England is a Canadian citizen.

It's a British institution. Individual nationality irrelevant. It has always been unelected and will continue to be so post Brexit.

Can you respond to the rest of my post though?

 

[peteblue]

Any proof of this?

The EU sell between £70-80 Bn more to us than we do to them. Now obviously I don’t have the figures for specific tariffs on each sector which do vary, but it’s generally accepted that incoming tariffs will exceed outgoing tariffs.......I.e our tariff take will be larger than the EU tariff take.....

 

[peteblue]

It’s suicide time in the Conservative party. The Remainers have a choice, support their government or support Corbyn. Now depending on their age and future employment opportunities they have a choice. Hammond, being an ex Chancellor would walk into various banks and whatever, however if he is made to look stupid and bitter over Brexit with a government that would do him and his new business partners down because of his treachery then he may well end up unemployed. Dominic Grieve will just retire to his French home anyway, but it’s the younger MP’s who are the more interesting. They know that they will be thrown out of the party if they vote for Corbyn, yet haven’t really yet made such a name for themselves to walk into a business role. So it’s going to be interesting.....Oliver Letwin is toast either way......

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

It’s suicide time in the Conservative party. The Remainers have a choice, support their government or support Corbyn. Now depending on their age and future employment opportunities they have a choice. Hammond, being an ex Chancellor would walk into various banks and whatever, however if he is made to look stupid and bitter over Brexit with a government that would do him and his new business partners down because of his treachery then he may well end up unemployed. Dominic Grieve will just retire to his French home anyway, but it’s the younger MP’s who are the more interesting. They know that they will be thrown out of the party if they vote for Corbyn, yet haven’t really yet made such a name for themselves to walk into a business role. So it’s going to be interesting.....Oliver Letwin is toast either way......

Somewhat of U-turn of confidence in the early hour after Johnson being enthroned. Its very easy playing the messiah when stage is empty now every day passes the big boys and girls return and Johnson looks inadequate.

PM Johnson has retreated to YouTube bunker already, doing modern day comical Ali impression. Baghdad Bob, Brexit Boris, no difference.

 

[degsy]

Somewhat of U-turn of confidence in the early hour after Johnson being enthroned. Its very easy playing the messiah when stage is empty now every day passes the big boys and girls return and Johnson looks inadequate.

PM Johnson has retreated to YouTube bunker already, doing modern day comical Ali impression. Baghdad Bob, Brexit Boris, no difference.

Its been a bit now, who actually authorised the original Refferendum?
Cameron on his own?
Via Cameron and collective cabinet responsibility.
Parliament passed the authorisation

 

[Bruce Wayne]

EU citizens will face checks for NHS treatment after a no-deal Brexit

EU citizens living in the UK have to produce documentation to prove their right to access free healthcare under the NHS after a no-deal Brexit.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[neil999]

doesnt a no confidence vote need 2/3s vote for it? no chance of that surely??

 

[Bruce Wayne]

doesnt a no confidence vote need 2/3s vote for it? no chance of that surely??

How many Tory votes do you think a Corbyn led coalition would garner?

 

[neil999]

How many Tory votes do you think a Corbyn led coalition would garner?

i cant see it getting enough whoever is in charge...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

i cant see it getting enough whoever is in charge...

He's already annoyed the independent change UK lot by not even speaking to them, and is catnip to the Tories. Throw in the hard Brexiteers in labour and it's hard to see how he will get anywhere close.

 

[peteblue]

Somewhat of U-turn of confidence in the early hour after Johnson being enthroned. Its very easy playing the messiah when stage is empty now every day passes the big boys and girls return and Johnson looks inadequate.

PM Johnson has retreated to YouTube bunker already, doing modern day comical Ali impression. Baghdad Bob, Brexit Boris, no difference.

Hammond, Corbyn, that woman who leads the LibDems and Sturgeon are not really big boys and girls are they though.....

 

[spectateur]

EU citizens will face checks for NHS treatment after a no-deal Brexit

EU citizens living in the UK have to produce documentation to prove their right to access free healthcare under the NHS after a no-deal Brexit.

www.businessinsider.com

Nothing new for British living in France. Carte vitale or other documentation, ID etc must be presented at the reception. I don't think the NHS has the admin setup to carry out similar checks and deal with the possible billing.