Current Affairs EU In or Out

[ToffeeTim]

The Tories are in far more serious trouble over Brexit than Labour

Labour will campaign against May's handling of Brexit (currently 7% approval and counting), but otherwise base their entire messaging against austerity, which everybody save loony ideologues knows to have been a disaster and to which the Tories have no response.

They will continue saying vague things about Brexit only when forced, and if elected will pursue Norway+ or a second referendum depending on the size of the minority

Austerity isn't going to win an election right now. It's way down people's lists of issues, bar the hardcore Corbyn vote.

Labour are in just as big a pickle on brexit as the tories. They need to look like they are committed to brexit to keep their traditional northern heartland vote, yet at the same time continue to energise their younger, mainly southern/London based supporters who want to overturn brexit. It's almost impossible to work out that juggling act.

As long as Corbyn leads labour then we will continue to have Conservative governments. If the conservatives can hoarde three quarters of the leave vote then they will win elections.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Laughable some MPs trying to make out tonight was a success.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Labours corybyns vote was whipped.....and he still lost.....
One resignation.....in the Labour party...

I was talking about the Tories.

 

[Frang]

No deal is gone! It now requires Parliamentary consent, Parliament will not consent, it really won't.

no deal will NEVER be gone, as it is the default setting for when our country cant decide on what it wants.

 

[Librarian]

The Customs Union doesn't solve the problem of the backstop.

Largely speaking, it would

Brexit: Why customs are central to solving the Northern Irish border impasse

In what was a rare victory in recent weeks for Theresa May, the British prime minister has won support from a majority of MPs at Westminster to return to the EU and reopen Brexit negotiations. However, EU leaders immediately indicated their unwillingness to revisit the Brexit withdrawal...

www.irishexaminer.com

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

The entire cabinet didn't vote, they have no chance of passing a whipped vote.

Just heard that Lib Dem’s, plaid and SNP abstained from customs union vote whilst TIG voted against it, which is what lost the vote.

If TIG had abstained it would have passed!!!!!

I can see this getting more traction by Monday

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

no deal will NEVER be gone, as it is the default setting for when our country cant decide on what it wants.

The country isn’t being allowed to decide.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

what don't people understand... the legal default is to . leave on the 12th. If by the 12th we haven't agreed a deal sand the EU don't offer an extension.. we are out with a no deal. In fact the EU is certain that will happen

There will be no, no deal. The EU won't want us gone that's where me and Brexit agree, they just need to sing along and convince and look mean.

Soft squidgy Brexit or no Brexit that's it. And Parliament was never going decide tonight, they will add tonight's favourite indicative votes onto Mays deal or we stay. And hopefully in that comes an election.

 

[kenada_blue]

Europe has destroyed Tory leaders since Thatcher.

Only Blair took advantage of it as an opposition when they were weak.

The Tories are in tatters yet theres more stronger opposition inside the party than anyone outside it.

Madness.

 

[Joey66]

I was talking about the Tories.

Sorry the nutters in the asylum, failed on every vote all non binding.
Taking control my Arsp. ...

 

[thirdmantackle]

Sounds like proddyphobia is creeping into this thread.

I've nothing against Prods
I actually work in a protestant school

 

[Jebus_lives]

Largely speaking, it would

Brexit: Why customs are central to solving the Northern Irish border impasse

In what was a rare victory in recent weeks for Theresa May, the British prime minister has won support from a majority of MPs at Westminster to return to the EU and reopen Brexit negotiations. However, EU leaders immediately indicated their unwillingness to revisit the Brexit withdrawal...

www.irishexaminer.com

It depends if you are enforcing the 4 freedoms or not. Customs Union helps in that respect.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Sorry the nutters in the asylum, failed on every vote all non binding.
Taking control my Arsp. ...

Revoke A.50 lost by the biggest margin in a 75% remain parliament....

Seems a touch odd doesn't it?

 

[Librarian]

The moderate view isn’t prevailing because all sides are still holding out for something more extreme

At some late stage that will change

To the politicians those indicative numbers will have meaning