Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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BigBlueNose said:
if I don't know, then you certainly don't know, yet here you are talking me down and suggesting another referendum. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN

Christ on a bike..
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I’m not talking you down i’m Just saying you can’t read the minds of everyone that voted leave. Even Gove is warning against no deal and he was one of the biggest cheerleaders of the leave campaign.

I’m suggesting that another referendum is the only way to be sure the majority of the people in the country support no deal.

What makes you so sure that will never happen? The government is broken, parliament is paralysed, there is no majority for anything. If that remains the case it will need to be voted on by the people.
 
gonetomorrow said:
She's right in one way. Free movement is the main thing that swayed the vote in favour of Leave.
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It was, but that was because many politicians (including loads that backed Remain) and most of the media managed to convince the public that white was black - that a right that 99% of them had actually exercised when they go on holiday without a visa or any problems (and loads when they actually move to Spain / France / whereever) was something that was bad.

What makes it worse is that I guarantee some form of easy movement of "workers" will be part of the UK-EU trade deal.
 
peteblue said:
It doesn’t need to. The government promised a meaningful vote, which they’ve just had. Unless parliament votes for whatever Deal May puts back to parliament, come the end of March we are out, with no deal.....
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Quite - we are on a pretty fast road to the edge now. Completely irrelevant if parliament doesn't want it - they would have to actually do something to stop it. Exit day is enshrined in law.

The question is whether a cross party group can get enough votes attached to an amendment to instruct the government (in some way) to extend article 50.

One thing I would say is that I was surprised how much May came out against no deal last night. I imagine having seen all the reports she knows what it would mean to the country (and to her legacy if she was the PM to take us there)
 
tsubaki said:
It was, but that was because many politicians (including loads that backed Remain) and most of the media managed to convince the public that white was black - that a right that 99% of them had actually exercised when they go on holiday without a visa or any problems (and loads when they actually move to Spain / France / whereever) was something that was bad.

What makes it worse is that I guarantee some form of easy movement of "workers" will be part of the UK-EU trade deal.
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The worst part (of many) of the remain campaign is that it did not make the positive case for free movement. It's brilliant - I worked in France and Italy in my twenties - I would love my kids to do the same.

A real shame. Completely Camerons fault for hamstringing the campaign to try and lesson the infighting in his poisonous party.
 
Anders_Limpar said:
Quite - we are on a pretty fast road to the edge now. Completely irrelevant if parliament doesn't want it - they would have to actually do something to stop it. Exit day is enshrined in law.

The question is whether a cross party group can get enough votes attached to an amendment to instruct the government (in some way) to extend article 50.

One thing I would say is that I was surprised how much May came out against no deal last night. I imagine having seen all the reports she knows what it would mean to the country (and to her legacy if she was the PM to take us there)
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Her legacy is already screwed mate. The Tories will be pretending she never existed as soon as she leaves number 10.
 
tim cahill said:
Her legacy is already screwed mate. The Tories will be pretending she never existed as soon as she leaves number 10.
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Legacy probably wrong word - more meant she’d be the one to have to live with causing the potential economic horrors of no deal.

I think that very real fear may have a part to play yet.
 
Anders_Limpar said:
The worst part (of many) of the remain campaign is that it did not make the positive case for free movement. It's brilliant - I worked in France and Italy in my twenties - I would love my kids to do the same.

A real shame. Completely Camerons fault for hamstringing the campaign to try and lesson the infighting in his poisonous party.
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Similar experiences here. It seems a shame that this is something that 'we' have made difficult for our kids.

Sigh.
 
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