Current Affairs EU In or Out

[orchard]

The agreement is between the EU and the Government, so the EU 27 should get it the same time Cabinet does. Both now have to ratify it.

It needs a majority eu side, unanimous for treaties, right?

 

[roydo]

The agreement is between the EU and the Government, so the EU 27 should get it the same time Cabinet does. Both now have to ratify it.

But the point remains, she asked the EU to look at something they dont even know will be approved by cabinet.

Uncharted waters these. Still, only the future of the UK and all who live here in the balance, so all good.

 

[orchard]

But the point remains, she asked the EU to look at something they dont even know will be approved by cabinet.

Uncharted waters these. Still, only the future of the UK and all who live here in the balance, so all good.

I don't she appointed them because of their integrity and skill set mate.

 

[roydo]

I don't she appointed them because of their integrity and skill set mate.

Maybe not, but from what is being reported, this plan she cobbled together wouldnt get approved at a Cub Scout meeting.

 

[tsubaki]

But the point remains, she asked the EU to look at something they dont even know will be approved by cabinet.

Uncharted waters these. Still, only the future of the UK and all who live here in the balance, so all good.

It is actually reasonably common - think of it like TTIP, which was negotiated and agreed at some levels between the negotiators and then fell down when Governments found out what it contained.

 

[orchard]

More cowards posturing?

 

[orchard]

Maybe not, but from what is being reported, this plan she cobbled together wouldnt get approved at a Cub Scout meeting.

Possibly not legal in part, rumour has it.

 

[roydo]

It is actually reasonably common - think of it like TTIP, which was negotiated and agreed at some levels between the negotiators and then fell down when Governments found out what it contained.

Fair point. But thats civil servants and presumably relevant ministers chatting, then being told by the cabinet/government saying No after consideration.

Unless I have missed something, this is May sending her plan to the EU, before cabinet have even seen it.

 

[tsubaki]

Fair point. But thats civil servants and presumably relevant ministers chatting, then being told by the cabinet/government saying No after consideration.

Unless I have missed something, this is May sending her plan to the EU, before cabinet have even seen it.

I think its more that Barnier has sent the plan to the EU after May has said she will try and get it pass Cabinet / Parliament.

 

[roydo]

I think its more that Barnier has sent the plan to the EU after May has said she will try and get it pass Cabinet / Parliament.

Ergo, its a mess. Say the EU all say Oui, then HOC say No, (quite feasible), then what?

 

[nsno-chris]

Ergo, its a mess. Say the EU all say Oui, then HOC say No, (quite feasible), then what?

I think she can proceed and go against parliament, highly unlikely but it’s possible

 

[roydo]

I think she can proceed and go against parliament, highly unlikely but it’s possible

Happy to admit the finer points of our constitutional proceedures are not my strong suit. But even I can see that her agreeing to a deal that looks terrible, against cabinet, and the HOC, (and the Lords I guess), is very very unlikely.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Democracy is a wonderful thing!?

 

[roydo]

Democracy is a wonderful thing!?

On X Factor or Strictly, its sound.

Not so sure on important stuff if I am honest.

 

[Walken]

On X Factor or Strictly, its sound.

Not so sure on important stuff if I am honest.

remember when we voted overwhelmingly for kirkby!