Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Bruce Wayne said:
Compromise on what? Firstly there is clearly no consensus on what 'leave' really means. Secondly, and as a result of this, there is no real consensus on the issues underlying the desire to leave, and thirdly there seems to be next to no idea on how membership of the EU actually impacted any of the above. What exactly would you like compromise on? :)
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It's really not that difficult:
  • Respect the result of the referendum, and leave the EU.
  • Work with the EU27 to come to some Norway-style deal that will see the UK inside both the Customs Union and the Single Market and ensure relative economic stability.
  • Formulate a genuine long-term industrial strategy in which the state works in partnership with the private sector which will see jobs return to the areas that voted to leave.
As Aneurin Bevan once famously said, we'll stuff their mouths with gold.
 
Number_25 said:
It's really not that difficult:
  • Respect the result of the referendum, and leave the EU.
  • Work with the EU27 to come to some Norway-style deal that will see the UK inside both the Customs Union and the Single Market and ensure relative economic stability.
  • Formulate a genuine long-term industrial strategy in which the state works in partnership with the private sector which will see jobs return to the areas that voted to leave.
As Aneurin Bevan once famously said, we'll stuff their mouths with gold.
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I'm fairly sure that the EU would gladly agree to a Norway stile deal but there's no way the UK would.
If the EU gave the UK access to the single market without the UK having to adhere to EU regs, or with a say in the creation/change of regulations, the EU would crumble fairly quickly.
 
Ruairi77 said:
I'm fairly sure that the EU would gladly agree to a Norway stile deal but there's no way the UK would.
If the EU gave the UK access to the single market without the UK having to adhere to EU regs, or with a say in the creation/change of regulations, the EU would crumble fairly quickly.
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Oh look, all those things that were impossible, make believe and something to do with unicorns, are now being proposed by Barnier....

“The 67-year-old Frenchman also said he was very concerned about the Irish border issue but that the EU was open to discussing different - possibly dispersed and new technological - ways of checking goods crossing the UK-Irish border.”

"We are ready to simplify these checks, to have them carried out at a number of different places and have checks, thanks to technical means, which could take different forms,"

"They could be dispersed. They could take place in different places, on board vessels, in ports outside Ireland, they could be done using technological means, they could be dispersed, as I said, or simplified in technological terms."
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Oh I won't dispute that I'm ideological, but from what I've seen, certainly on here, the remain posters have been either posting up studies, evidence or what not to support their point of view, or requesting that leave voters do likewise. That has generally not been forthcoming, and leave voters have instead dreamt up excuse after excuse as to why the evidence is not relevant. There have even been attempts to understand the issues involved in the decision to vote leave, and what people expect leaving will do to help those issues, and we've been met with similar levels of ignorance.

You can only bang your head against the wall so many times.
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Oh dear......
 
Number_25 said:
It's really not that difficult:
  • Respect the result of the referendum, and leave the EU.
  • Work with the EU27 to come to some Norway-style deal that will see the UK inside both the Customs Union and the Single Market and ensure relative economic stability.
  • Formulate a genuine long-term industrial strategy in which the state works in partnership with the private sector which will see jobs return to the areas that voted to leave.
As Aneurin Bevan once famously said, we'll stuff their mouths with gold.
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We don’t need a Norway style deal, a Canada style free trade agreement would be fine and we would be fully outside the EU just like we voted for.......
 
Ruairi77 said:
for that you need a border.
The GFA will not allow Brexit to happen.
You'll be faced with a choice of giving special status to NI and Brexiting or remaining in the EU
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Oh look, all those things that were impossible, make believe and something to do with unicorns, are now being proposed by Barnier....

“The 67-year-old Frenchman also said he was very concerned about the Irish border issue but that the EU was open to discussing different - possibly dispersed and new technological - ways of checking goods crossing the UK-Irish border.”

"We are ready to simplify these checks, to have them carried out at a number of different places and have checks, thanks to technical means, which could take different forms,"

"They could be dispersed. They could take place in different places, on board vessels, in ports outside Ireland, they could be done using technological means, they could be dispersed, as I said, or simplified in technological terms."

See above.....
 
peteblue said:
Oh look, all those things that were impossible, make believe and something to do with unicorns, are now being proposed by Barnier....

“The 67-year-old Frenchman also said he was very concerned about the Irish border issue but that the EU was open to discussing different - possibly dispersed and new technological - ways of checking goods crossing the UK-Irish border.”

"We are ready to simplify these checks, to have them carried out at a number of different places and have checks, thanks to technical means, which could take different forms,"

"They could be dispersed. They could take place in different places, on board vessels, in ports outside Ireland, they could be done using technological means, they could be dispersed, as I said, or simplified in technological terms."

See above.....
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It's the wrong thread but even if it does work like that, there'll be legal challenges.
Taking the UK out of the EU will represent a roll back in what was agreed in the GFA.
 
Number_25 said:
If you're unwilling to support the Labour Party in its goal of achieving democratic consent, then the membership should be provided the means of replacing you as a result of that failure.
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Corbyn who has opposed every democratic vote by his own party when on the back benches .....poacher turned gamekeeper springs to mind TBF he is anti EU deep down......
 
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