Foot Long Hot Dog
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So you finally admit that no deal would be a ‘bad Brexit’ then?
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If we have join the WTO that's a deal there is no such thing as no deal.......
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Foot Long Hot Dog
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Firstly that’s yet another disingenuous lie that you’ve swallowed mate, as there most definitely is such a thing as ‘no deal’.
But that’s side stepping my question, you said that you wanted and thought we’d get a ‘good deal’ which means by definition there must be a ‘bad deal’ in your opinion, so surely that is no deal?
yes you were in an IN /OUT referendum remain lost if you can remember.......
the voting paper went via the hpouse of parliment voted in by 6-1 demorocy
the vote went the OUT way by 1.4 million democrocy
the was a three month build up to how and what way you should vote - democrocy.......
you posted yourself we are leaving the EU...........
So I post we would like a good deal .....
or the deal will be on WTO terms.......
No such thing as no deal.........
roydo
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Of course there is.
If we leave the EU without a trade deal, there will be No Deal.
And going onto WTO terms will go nowhere to sort out thousands of custom/supply line problems.
The WTO have been preparing with us to sit at the table if the EU stupidly do not do a fair trade deal -there is a punishment deal where they will lose 40 billion compensation........
Which will be a setback that we will overcome......
roydo
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So, you admit you had no idea what you were voting for then? Other than to leave the EU.
With zero idea of what the implications of that might be?
Great move Joe. Very insightful.
roydo
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When? And How?
At what cost to normal working folk?
When you can answer that, and not fling some nonsense about 1.4 million majority, then perhaps I will start to grasp why you thought it was a good idea to tear up the arrangements that affect every facet of normal folks everyday lives, without a clue why.
abelard
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classic, that!
Like when the Emperor Hirohito took to the radio after Hiroshima and Nagaski, and began by admitting that "Recent world events have not necessarily turned in Japan's favour"
If I'm not mistaken, I think the next biggest country (after No Deal Britain) which relies entirely on WTO rules and does not have any other preferential trade deals is.... Mauritania
Foot Long Hot Dog
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Do you even realise what leaving without an agreement actually entails mate?
Without a deal, we will have zero trade deals on the day after we leave the EU. We not only lose our single market access but we lose all of the deals that we had via the EU. We’ll be the only country on the planet without a single trade deal.
In addition to that we fall out of every regulatory agreement that we had with the EU, that covers everything from food and livestock movement, air travel, driving licences, drugs licensing, manufacturing standards, energy supply, etc etc etc. A total of 759 agreements end on the same day, and ALL will need to be renegotiated in what would be a crisis situation.
Anyone who thinks that no deal simply means WTO and it’ll all be sound honest, is either woefully ill informed or is lying, it really is that simple.
abelard
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A setback that we will overcome.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
I personally think that an awful lot of work is being done in the shadows to prevent chaos, which lets face it, benefits no one.
That said, I am also absolutely certain that plenty of things we take 100% for granted now, will be missed, leading to that awful phrase, unintended consequences.
abelard
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Well, the Civil Service is trying no doubt, but the scale of what would actually be involved is just so far beyond what any sort of last minute secret planning could resolve... it's no more trying to kick back the tide, really. Remember the futility of it all from @nsno-chris's accounts, and that is just one of literally thousands of issues that will need sorting.
"Leaving on WTO terms" should in theory include a sort of barebones haphazard deal to keep the planes flying and the medicine cabinets full. But the EU will still demand the divorce bill, which means some Tories will probably even then still vote against it. And the European Parliament has to approve the final deal too, so even that bare minimum is not a certainty. There will be considerable opposition in Europe to any deal, no matter how basic, which results in a hard Irish border.
If it is not a catastrophe on day one (and you can count from day one on the Pound collapsing), it certainly will be soon enough, when the ports back up and tarriffs on everything to and from Europe immediately kick in
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