Don't drink like you who has ten Stella a day ....lol
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That should signal the end of May. The only question now is whether there's a full on leadership challenge, resulting in a GE, or if the Tories are so paralysed by fear of a Corbyn government that they limp on to some unknown destination.
That "third way" nonsense was the only way Brexit could happen under this government as it exists now. It was patently stupid and never would have worked, but it put the onus on the EU to bat it away and look like the bad guys, giving the Brexiteers momentum. Davis, thankfully, is seemingly too stupid to have seen it that way and screwed up the whole thing.
Good.
That "third way" nonsense was the only way Brexit could happen under this government as it exists now. It was patently stupid and never would have worked, but it put the onus on the EU to bat it away and look like the bad guys, giving the Brexiteers momentum. Davis, thankfully, is seemingly too stupid to have seen it that way and screwed up the whole thing.
Good.
tsubaki
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If this was anyone else, it would be assumed to be a leadership bid. Its only his history of laughable self-sacrifice that makes people think it is just another one of those.
Mays meeting with the German has been leader has set her up for her fall ...
They reckon there's more than the 45 letters needed to challenge her .....
Gove fully backing her is a big worry has he would stab himself in is own back to gain power ...
Boris has no chance.....
It's up in the air....
GE 2018.
Brexiier PM or a GE in which the Tories would not risk......
..Davies gone, I wonder who’ll be next. The dirt might be about to be dished ahead of a leadership challenge.
Foot Long Hot Dog
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The CBI don’t get any EU grants and this has been pointed out to you before, and yet you’re still peddling it as a supposed ‘fact’, it isn’t. So whoever told you that they did, and that it somehow means as a Leaver you can block out every word they say as being EU propaganda was lying.
The CBI represent 190,000 UK businesses who collectively employ over 7 million people in the country. It’s funded by the membership fees of those members.
It doesn’t get a bean off the EU, it does however produce a number of reports annually for the EC, which are about the opinions of British business, the EC pays around £140k in total annually or around 0.6% of the CBI’s turnover.
So you can put that lie in the bin Joey, as the CBI aren’t some EU puppet, they’re voicing the collective opinion of their 190k U.K. members. The fact that you don’t like what their members are telling them in respect of Brexit is tough, their words are extremely valid by dismissing it, you’ve merely done the fingers in the ears la la thing yet again.
Foot Long Hot Dog
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I don’t drink. Another one you’ve got wrong. You’re consistent I’ll give you that.
It's an indication of the muddled thinking that we seem to flip from needing freedom so that we can trade with the world, to then regarding the businesses that will be doing that trade as rich puppets of the EU as they don't subscribe to that desire.
Was reading a Harvard paper this morning about 'prevalence induced concept change', or in other words, when we persist in believing a problem exists even when it has largely been solved. It underlines why we still tend to think of the world as on the crapper, even though it's getting significantly better. We do this because we shift our perception of what the problem actually is. Anyway, it got me thinking of whether, in the absence of wars with overt enemies on the beaches, whether people of a certain generation have simply reframed what an 'enemy' is, and in this instance it's those simply coming here to work.
<anecdote>As an aside, I was in Czech recently visiting the in-laws and was talking to a friend whilst out on a walk with her kids. Czech's love picking fruits, mushrooms and stuff when out walking, and she mentioned that her dad had spent a couple of seasons in Scotland picking fruit when he was young. Far from the bottom feeding grunts of the litter of UKIP lore, he's a very successful architect with his own firm, so clearly a smart cookie who came for that work in order for the experience and learning the language. The money was almost secondary. </anecdote>
orchard
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Yea, and mache, pied de mouton and sauerkraut are the new V-2's.
Foot Long Hot Dog
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Indeed, but that simple fact will no doubt be batted away with yet more soundbite nonsense about them needing to be ‘braver’ and how they should ‘embrace the opportunities’ that Brexit is apparently going to deliver.
Ignore the supply chain, regulatory, logistic and resource issues. Ignore your current trading partners, export markets and slick operations. Don’t be such a coward, embrace the brave new World of Brexit........or something.....
Plus of course, the cracker that reverting to WTO rules for the EU would be fine and dandy, yet apparently those same rules are holding us back from 'trading with the world'. I had to appreciate the irony this morning when a Davis advocate on the radio grumbled about the detailed white paper his department had been working on was ignored by May at the recent cabinet meeting. I like to think she told Davis that she didn't need experts before shouting something monosyllabic at him. Joking aside though, it would be nice if that paper was published regardless, as there's precious little else of substance to hang your hat onto.
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