Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Did you not read my post? Seriously. Did you not read my post? This is what I said:
"...It was a comparative. Neither campaign had the ability, or executive authority, to implement anything. It was a comparative figure, and a comparative statement..."

I have set in bold the pertinent part.

I have posted this up before, but here it is again, from a 'Leave' leaflet:
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The £350 million is the gross figure, we all know after rebate the amount is less. But the above shows a comparison. A comparison cost. There was NO lie about it at all.
Add to thst how much the EU cost us by being in a single market our tarrifs alone to,China a mere 3 billion!
 
Got a picture of project fear booklet sent To every U.K. Household costing 8 million Bruce the Cameron's and Gideons who ran. For the hill after defeat gave permission to fund that booklet full of project Fear , and remember a vote for Out was to leave the single market, and the customs union!

Don't ever change Joe :lol:
 
Got a picture of project fear booklet sent To every U.K. Household costing 8 million Bruce the Cameron's and Gideons who ran. For the hill after defeat gave permission to fund that booklet full of project Fear , and remember a vote for Out was to leave the single market, and the customs union!
could you translate that into french so that it makes sense ?
 
So your comment about passive aggressive anger is rubbish, 100%. There you go, something else to have a go at me about. Comments from you to me are basically not worth a carrot! There you are, something else. Love winding you up, and it works every time...

Lol, you’re the one who is busting blood vessels in this thread every day lid, I just drop in for amusement.
 
What happens if we leave?

· What happens if we leave?

· What are the alternatives?

in bold pure fiction!
Register to vote on GOV.UK



Voting to leave the EU would create years of uncertainty and potential economic disruption. This would reduce investment and cost jobs.

The Government judges that it could result in ten years or more of uncertainty as the UK unpicks our relationship with the EU, and renegotiates new arrangements with the EU and over 50 other countries around the world.

HM Treasury analysis shows Britain’s economy could be tipped into a year-long recession. At least 500,000 jobs could be lost and GDP could be around 3.6% lower following a vote to leave the EU than it would be if we remained in the EU.

Average real wages could be nearly 3% lower than if we remained in the EU, which would amount to a reduction of £800 a year for someone working full time on the average wage.

Treasury analysis also shows that if the UK leaves the EU, after 15 years this could mean:

· a cost per year equivalent to £4,300 per household in the UK

· a hit to tax receipts of £36 billion a year

· this is the equivalent of an extra 8p on the basic rate of income tax

Some argue that we could strike a good deal quickly with the EU because they want to keep access to our market. But the Government’s judgement is that it would be much harder than that – less than 8% of EU exports come to the UK while 44% of UK exports go to the EU.

No other country has managed to secure significant access to the Single Market, without having to:

· follow EU rules over which they have no real say

· pay into the EU

· accept EU citizens living and working in their country

A more limited trade deal with the EU would give the UK less access to the Single Market than we have now – including for services, which make up almost 80% of the UK economy. For example, Canada’s deal with the EU will provide limited access for services like air travel, broadcasting and banking. The deal has been seven years in the making, and is still not in force.

If the UK voted to leave the EU, we would lose access to trade agreements with more than 50 countries outside the EU. The UK would seek to renegotiate these deals, but this would take years and there is no guarantee that the UK would manage to negotiate terms as good as those we enjoy today.

The UK would miss out on the benefits of the trade deals currently being negotiated by the EU, including with the US and Japan. When these are successfully concluded our exports to the EU, plus other countries covered by EU trade deals, would account for 82% of total UK exports.
 
What happens if we leave?

· What happens if we leave?

· What are the alternatives?

in bold pure fiction!
Register to vote on GOV.UK



Voting to leave the EU would create years of uncertainty and potential economic disruption. This would reduce investment and cost jobs.

The Government judges that it could result in ten years or more of uncertainty as the UK unpicks our relationship with the EU, and renegotiates new arrangements with the EU and over 50 other countries around the world.

HM Treasury analysis shows Britain’s economy could be tipped into a year-long recession. At least 500,000 jobs could be lost and GDP could be around 3.6% lower following a vote to leave the EU than it would be if we remained in the EU.

Average real wages could be nearly 3% lower than if we remained in the EU, which would amount to a reduction of £800 a year for someone working full time on the average wage.

Treasury analysis also shows that if the UK leaves the EU, after 15 years this could mean:

· a cost per year equivalent to £4,300 per household in the UK

· a hit to tax receipts of £36 billion a year

· this is the equivalent of an extra 8p on the basic rate of income tax

Some argue that we could strike a good deal quickly with the EU because they want to keep access to our market. But the Government’s judgement is that it would be much harder than that – less than 8% of EU exports come to the UK while 44% of UK exports go to the EU.

No other country has managed to secure significant access to the Single Market, without having to:

· follow EU rules over which they have no real say

· pay into the EU

· accept EU citizens living and working in their country

A more limited trade deal with the EU would give the UK less access to the Single Market than we have now – including for services, which make up almost 80% of the UK economy. For example, Canada’s deal with the EU will provide limited access for services like air travel, broadcasting and banking. The deal has been seven years in the making, and is still not in force.

If the UK voted to leave the EU, we would lose access to trade agreements with more than 50 countries outside the EU. The UK would seek to renegotiate these deals, but this would take years and there is no guarantee that the UK would manage to negotiate terms as good as those we enjoy today.

The UK would miss out on the benefits of the trade deals currently being negotiated by the EU, including with the US and Japan. When these are successfully concluded our exports to the EU, plus other countries covered by EU trade deals, would account for 82% of total UK exports.

I've put the pertinent bit in big text for you Joe. I'd say most of the rest is coming true to be honest.
 
Don't ever change Joe lol
Where you behind this leaflet Brucelol
https://www.bruceonpolitics.com/2016/11/07/some-bremainiac-lies/

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Some Bremainiac lies

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Because the remain campaign had no good reasons why we should stay in the EU they resorted to Project Fear instead. Telling us a pack of lies to try and win the referendum. But these lies were so obvious and so ridiculous that only the most dim witted didn’t see straight through them.

Brexit will cause World War 3. According to David Cameron.

HM Treasury analysis shows Britain’s economy could be tipped into a year-long recession. At least 500,000 jobs could be lost and GDP could be around 3.6% lower following a vote to leave the EU than it would be if we remained in the EU. This was the Government’s official message.

The lefty Europhile Guardian confidently predicted that the Troubles in Northern Ireland would restart.

George Osborne told us that house prices would take an 18% hit.

We were promised a 20% drop in share prices. When in reality they have risen to record highs.

No plans for an EU army. A straightforward lie made by many Europhiles.

Osborne promised us a “punishment budget” if we disobeyed him. Also he said that interest rates would rise, when they have gone down. And that taxes would rise. In fact Osborne told us a whole litany of lies. No wonder he is no longer Chancellor.

Cameron said he would invoke Article 50 the day after the referendum if Brexit won, he said the UK economy would collapse and that he would not resign. All lies.

The government pushed a propaganda leaflet through every letterbox in the land. (Here it is). Which contained an utterly distorted view of reality. Click on the link and with 20/20 hindsight you can see how execrable it was. The government wasted £9 million of OUR money doing this. A disgrace.

We were also told that all Premiership clubs were against Brexit as were almost all senior members of the armed forces. That France would rip up the Le Touquet agreement and that the Jungle would be moved to Dover. That the UK would go to the back of trade negotiation queues. And so on. All blatant Project Fear lies.

It wasn’t just the Government trying to frighten us, Mark Carneyjoined in, as did Wolfgang Schäuble (who has since admitted that he was following Osborne’s instructions) and Christine Lagarde at the IMF. All of whom have since had the good grace to perform 180 degree U turns.

The BBC were cheerleaders for all these lies. (Read here). Amazingly they are still running an anti Brexit campaign, despite the obvious democratic will of the British people. This is a disgrace, it is against their charter, and it has caused immense harm to their reputation and credibility.

The British people can only be praised for being so steadfast in the face of such a barrage of lies. But then in WW2 we laughed at Lord Haw-Haw.
 
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