Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Significantly higher turnout, for one thing

The turnout in the referndum was the highest turnout for any democratic vote in this country's history! Sorry pal but that doesn't fly. If your saying the referndum isn't valid because of the turnout then every election to ever take place in this country's history means nothing.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Therefore let's give them more power before we get our own house in order?

They have the power anyway, stop fooling yourself. It isn't a problem restricted to us. It's a worldwide problem and most involved in the EU are just as dishonest and corrupt as our own gang of useless MP and parasites in the house of lords.

 

[The binman chronicles]

First of all, it's not a divorce. That nonsense description has been used by the politicians to make this an emotional subject and suggest it's the equivalent of breaking up a family. It is a buissness transaction that can be seen as a good thing or an utterly terrible thing.

I'm sorry mate but a second Referndum would carry no more weight the the first one. No amount of spin in the world will ever change that. I can get behind a referndum on the terms we take on leaving and the deal but on actually leaving itself? Sorry but that's been decided. If the government want to go back on it and say referendums are advisory I can deal with it. But I can't abide this pretense that a second one its being done for any other reason then to simply ignore the first.

It took 41 years for the eurosceptics to get a referndum after 75 (two years after we joined without the consent of the electorate) and we all know we won't wait that long for another one but to ask for a second when the decision of the first hasn't even been forfilled is just daft to me.

I just don't agree. The first referendum was like someone telling me to vote if I want a better house, I've been told that it will be a swanky new pad compared to the current dump, I will be given more money off the back of it and any interfering from councils and neighbours will be taken away. Of course I will say yes. Only when finished it turns out I get the same house, with no extra money and the same interfering but I can't afford to keep it as my job is being moved abroad.

Now that is the negative view, I voted to remain first time around but after seeing what deal we have negotiated I may see that as more in the country's interest and change my vote to leave. My point is how can you know what you are voting for on something that isn't binary?

As you voted leave would you be happy if we still remain in the single market, so we still pay into Europe, have the same immigration rules as before and the supreme court is still the European Court? Is that what you voted for? Same question goes to @Joey66

A second referendum could help leavers here by having a question saying I would choose yes to leave if we are totally free from the EU the deal you have done does not go far enough.

 

[Joey66]

I just don't agree. The first referendum was like someone telling me to vote if I want a better house, I've been told that it will be a swanky new pad compared to the current dump, I will be given more money off the back of it and any interfering from councils and neighbours will be taken away. Of course I will say yes. Only when finished it turns out I get the same house, with no extra money and the same interfering but I can't afford to keep it as my job is being moved abroad.

Now that is the negative view, I voted to remain first time around but after seeing what deal we have negotiated I may see that as more in the country's interest and change my vote to leave. My point is how can you know what you are voting for on something that isn't binary?

As you voted leave would you be happy if we still remain in the single market, so we still pay into Europe, have the same immigration rules as before and the supreme court is still the European Court? Is that what you voted for? Same question goes to @Joey66

A second referendum could help leavers here by having a question saying I would choose yes to leave if we are totally free from the EU the deal you have done does not go far enough.

One answer to that 8-9 milllion spent on project fear sent to every U.K. Household ?
Both sides told lies propaganda many times voters got told vote out and you are leaving the single market, and the the customs union - QT on BBC the idiots on there saying the OUT voters voted not knowing are an insult to their own intelligence or they have a bad memory like you have!

 

[The binman chronicles]

One answer to that 8-9 milllion spent on project fear sent to every U.K. Household ?
Both sides told lies propaganda many times voters got told vote out and you are leaving the single market, and the the customs union - QT on BBC the idiots on there saying the OUT voters voted not knowing are an insult to their own intelligence or they have a bad memory like you have!

I know both sides told porkies, personally I didn't listen to either, I can make up my own mind. Seems to me you are scared to have a second referendum as you might lose this time around. My point of view is why should anyone be scared (on both sides of the coin) as once the deal is on the table and you know exactly what you are getting/losing surely that will back up why you voted one way or another? Like I say I would look at the facts completely afresh at least having an understanding of what will happen if we leave. (Soft/hard/no deal)

Bad memory? You couldn't read one post and remember to respond to a simple question put to you...

 

[Joey66]

I know both sides told porkies, personally I didn't listen to either, I can make up my own mind. Seems to me you are scared to have a second referendum as you might lose this time around. My point of view is why should anyone be scared (on both sides of the coin) as once the deal is on the table and you know exactly what you are getting/losing surely that will back up why you voted one way or another? Like I say I would look at the facts completely afresh at least having an understanding of what will happen if we leave. (Soft/hard/no deal)

Bad memory? You couldn't read one post and remember to respond to a simple question put to you...

In a GE you accept the result end of - just because you don't like the result you cant unfortunately change the government voted in
I don't answer some questions because it's the same old boring Remoaners!

 

[The binman chronicles]

In a GE you accept the result end of - just because you don't like the result you cant unfortunately change the government voted in
I don't answer some questions because it's the same old boring Remoaners!

That's entirely your prerogative. However that doesn't make for interesting conversations on a discussion forum. You may as well play chess on your own.

For a GE you decide who is in power for 5 years based on a manifesto they provide. This is more a binary choice than brexit. Think i'm a 100% brexiter standing shoulder to shoulder with you, surely when you voted to leave you expected to come out of the single market, take back control of the borders and not have to pay out to the EU? So what if they turn around and say the deal they have done still means we have to do all three (& possibly more) would you still be happy with that? I want to give power to all people whether they are on one side or another to have a voice.

 

[Joey66]

That's entirely your prerogative. However that doesn't make for interesting conversations on a discussion forum. You may as well play chess on your own.

For a GE you decide who is in power for 5 years based on a manifesto they provide. This is more a binary choice than brexit. Think i'm a 100% brexiter standing shoulder to shoulder with you, surely when you voted to leave you expected to come out of the single market, take back control of the borders and not have to pay out to the EU? So what if they turn around and say the deal they have done still means we have to do all three (& possibly more) would you still be happy with that? I want to give power to all people whether they are on one side or another to have a voice.

You omit the Polictical union

 

[Chewbacca]

Should have a new poll

1 Out means Out
2 Stay means Stay
3 Old Racists on Toast

 

[Ron Swanson]

Farage is, of course, being self-serving by calling for another referendum.

A second referendum, if the polls are right, would likely result in remain winning. That would leave millions of disgruntled leave voters. From the ashes of the vote, UKIP would emerge as a resurgent force and Farage would be relevant again. Right now he's a spent force.

 

[orchard]

Christ:

Mark Davies
@Mark_T_Davies
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Some cretins come to make a citizens arrest on Sadiq Khan because of his Trump comments. One guy has a ‘NO 2 EU’ number plate #Fab18#SadiqKhan pic.twitter.com/4AlXDn2rfz

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Henna Shah
@hennalikespie
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Racist campaigners trying to disrupt #Fab18 shows us why we need .@ProgressOnlinepic.twitter.com/pNPLFx0IWv

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Ruhe #FBPE
@3_inch_heels
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Whilst on the other side #Fab18 ...pic.twitter.com/DYpYHqy7TX

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Ruhe #FBPE
@3_inch_heels
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Not sure what you are representing? Disrupting the#Fab18 with a Magna Carta t-shirt, a no EU sign and an American flag... pic.twitter.com/QFnLop3MIK

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[Bruce Wayne]

The apparent inevitability that he's a white man with a bald head.

 

[orchard]

The apparent inevitability that he's a white man with a bald head.

I doesn't help my image much

 

[orchard]

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

Could do with a good old civil war to be honest, take my mind off Everton for a bit