Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Livestock farmers looking forward to the prospect of the Sherman's intensive farmed beef and floods of NZ lamb? Ok mate

Not what the farmers I know see as a bright future
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My village, a small one, is surrounded by farms on all sides. My mates, including all the farmers, cultivate crops and rear cattle, sheep, pigs and chickens. All voted Brexit, all seem very confident about their futures. These guys are no nonsense people who all know their trade.........
 
Just listening to the ten o'clock news, it doesn't seem as though Europe have taken May's proposals in the spirit in which they were offered. Macron just repeated the standard mantra of no discussions until money, etc are settled. May only had one chance to put a conciliatory proposal forward. If the EU take their normal position and say, we won, you lost, we want more, then I think the UK will rally behind the PM and say 'sod you' to the EU. Hopefully sensible people will come to the fore, but I think that EU politics will drown out sensible people.........a shame, but tomorrow will let us know........
 
peteblue said:
Just listening to the ten o'clock news, it doesn't seem as though Europe have taken May's proposals in the spirit in which they were offered. Macron just repeated the standard mantra of no discussions until money, etc are settled. May only had one chance to put a conciliatory proposal forward. If the EU take their normal position and say, we won, you lost, we want more, then I think the UK will rally behind the PM and say 'sod you' to the EU. Hopefully sensible people will come to the fore, but I think that EU politics will drown out sensible people.........a shame, but tomorrow will let us know........
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Barnier has described the speech as constructive and said that May has shown a willingness to move forward, which seems a fairly positive response. I didn't hear the whole thing myself, but what I heard sounded high on platitudes and low on detail - pretty much par for the course. It seems she said we would leave in 2019, but that everything would then stay as it is now for an unspecified period of time. During that time we will pay 10 billion or so a year to maintain the status quo. I'm interested to see how this plays out within the Conservative party and how long they can hold things together internally before it starts to fall apart again.
 
peteblue said:
My village, a small one, is surrounded by farms on all sides. My mates, including all the farmers, cultivate crops and rear cattle, sheep, pigs and chickens. All voted Brexit, all seem very confident about their futures. These guys are no nonsense people who all know their trade.........
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My next door neighbour has over 10,000 arable acres and he supports Brexit because he's a racist old money flute but knows it'll hurt his pocket
 
davmaher said:
Barnier has described the speech as constructive and said that May has shown a willingness to move forward, which seems a fairly positive response. I didn't hear the whole thing myself, but what I heard sounded high on platitudes and low on detail - pretty much par for the course. It seems she said we would leave in 2019, but that everything would then stay as it is now for an unspecified period of time. During that time we will pay 10 billion or so a year to maintain the status quo. I'm interested to see how this plays out within the Conservative party and how long they can hold things together internally before it starts to fall apart again.
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I think it depends on the response from the EU. A negative response could damage May, but then if that happens Boris will take over and the EU knows how he will react. A positive response will strengthen May and probably lead to a sensible conclusion, but I cannot believe that the EU will behave sensibly.......so Boris and a quick exit it is.......
 
peteblue said:
Good lad, willing to do what is right even if it costs him money......
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Not really, he's a nice enough bloke in fairness but his family have owned the land since the late 17th Century and he fancies supplementing his income through fracking on some of his inherited land, I've already told him I'll open up mine to a camp for fracking protestors lol. I go down well as a Scouser surrounded by landed Tory old money haha.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Not really, he's a nice enough bloke in fairness but his family have owned the land since the late 17th Century and he fancies supplementing his income through fracking on some of his inherited land, I've already told him I'll open up mine to a camp for fracking protestors lol. I go down well as a Scouser surrounded by landed Tory old money haha.
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Hahaha.......Wait till Chico finds out you are part of the landowners association, your life won't be worth living on here.......
 
peteblue said:
I think it depends on the response from the EU. A negative response could damage May, but then if that happens Boris will take over and the EU knows how he will react. A positive response will strengthen May and probably lead to a sensible conclusion, but I cannot believe that the EU will behave sensibly.......so Boris and a quick exit it is.......
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There will be sabre rattling on both sides throughout the whole process. Boris did his bit last weekend and I'm sure there will be sound bites from some Euro politicos taking a negative stance that people can grab onto if they want. The important thing now is to get some real progress from next week's round of talks. "Well done is better than well said" - Benjamin Franklin.
 
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