Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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jal123 said:
I'm not interested in, nor did I mention Corbyn. He'd make you look composed and rational regarding the EU.

I'm worried that the people working minimum wage jobs, those who don't get sick pay, those who can barely afford to get by will suffer. You seem to revel in this though!?

Ladder puller.
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Quite the opposite. Getting out from this low wage importation of Labour will help our people who need the most help. I've been disgusted that neither Labour nor the unions have railed against low wage imports......
 
peteblue said:
Quite the opposite. Getting out from this low wage importation of Labour will help our people who need the most help. I've been disgusted that neither Labour nor the unions have railed against low wage imports......
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Except pretty much every actual study into migration shows a miniscule impact on wages at the bottom end. It's a complete myth.
 
peteblue said:
Quite the opposite. Getting out from this low wage importation of Labour will help our people who need the most help. I've been disgusted that neither Labour nor the unions have railed against low wage imports......
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Are you advocating strike action? A bit like the union action of the Lindsey workers in 2009. I assume this militancy stretches to getting on the picket line and defending the railway workers. Or rallying for public sector workers to be given inflation plus pay deals so as to 'fight' against low pay.[/QUOTE]
 
orchard said:
1, thanks for asking. Chance of you not plagiarising the Mail?
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I always love seeing who 'likes' your post. It usually doesn't matter what you write, and let's be honest your post was hardly funny or insightful, but the usual suspects, joey, jai, etc jumped straight in, well done lads......
 
hullefc said:
Are you advocating strike action? A bit like the union action of the Lindsey workers in 2009. I assume this militancy stretches to getting on the picket line and defending the railway workers. Or rallying for public sector workers to be given inflation plus pay deals so as to 'fight' against low pay.
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No mate, strike action is neanderthal, I just find it strange that neither the Labour Party nor the Trades Unions actually bothered to complain, obviously because it could be called racist they didn't know what to do....
 
hullefc said:
Are you advocating strike action? A bit like the union action of the Lindsey workers in 2009. I assume this militancy stretches to getting on the picket line and defending the railway workers. Or rallying for public sector workers to be given inflation plus pay deals so as to 'fight' against low pay.
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Oh, and public sector workers are not on low pay......
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Except pretty much every actual study into migration shows a miniscule impact on wages at the bottom end. It's a complete myth.
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its not , the figures when looked at for low wage earners quite clearly show that when taken on there own ie care workers ect at the bottom of the wage structure, it does have a downward effect,roughly for every 1% increase in immigration the lowest paid in work lose out , it works out to about 70p for somebody on minimum wage for every 1% rise not a great deal for most but to them its hardly miniscule to those affected.
Read the bank of England study on the subject.
 
edge said:
its not , the figures when looked at for low wage earners quite clearly show that when taken on there own ie care workers ect at the bottom of the wage structure, it does have a downward effect,roughly for every 1% increase in immigration the lowest paid in work lose out , it works out to about 70p for somebody on minimum wage for every 1% rise not a great deal for most but to them its hardly miniscule to those affected.
Read the bank of England study on the subject.
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He's thinking more about London office workers and bankers......immigration had no effect upon wages......
 
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Pete normally on your side in regards the EU, but the right to strike is the working mans last call when most everything else has failed, take it away and you are nothing more than a wage slave.
My union the RMT actually has been campaigning against the use of overseas workers for a long while, including shipping and came out clearly on the side of getting out of the EU as its official stance, stating the postal workers directive among other reasons why it wanted out.
Nobody can say it wasn't a working class thing to vote out as millions did just that.
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edge said:
its not , the figures when looked at for low wage earners quite clearly show that when taken on there own ie care workers ect at the bottom of the wage structure, it does have a downward effect,roughly for every 1% increase in immigration the lowest paid in work lose out , it works out to about 70p for somebody on minimum wage for every 1% rise not a great deal for most but to them its hardly miniscule to those affected.
Read the bank of England study on the subject.
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Hang on a 1% rise leads to roughly a 10% loss in wages ???

That doesn't sound right at all.

This is from full fact after from said BofE study.

It found that a 1.88% reduction in pay for semi-skilled and unskilled service workers would be expected to follow, on average, a 10% increase in the proportion of immigrants working in those jobs in a particular region.
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https://fullfact.org/immigration/does-immigration-reduce-wages/
 
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