Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Joey66 said:
The doom and gloom predictions did cause the £ the stock markets to tumble as soon as the out vote was announced stock markets now booming the £ recovered to the level that it should be v the dollar as Osborne inflated itv the Euro yes a drop expected that - no economy over the cliff as predicted!
Apology from the BOE excepted who will get sacked no one!
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As I've mentioned previously, I work day-in-day-out to model and understand highly complex esoteric biological data. I don't yet consider myself an "expert", but even I know and understand that even the best modelling techniques will sometimes (and fairly consistently) throw up anomalies. Anything coming out of a predictive model should be taken with a little consideration, but at the end of the day - it usually points toward the most likely outcome.

In this case, it's impossible to really say if any of them were correct - seeing as we've yet to trigger Article 50, never mind leave the EU.

The predictions regarding an "immediate" recession were daft to make, I agree - but I think it's important that we, as a nation, don't fall into the retched dogma of being in anyway dismissive of educated opinions on matters - however big or small.
 
peteblue said:
"The challenge for the scientific community is to keep searching for a route that will keep Britain very much in Europe, where it belongs, and forestall its drift towards becoming some kind of mid-Atlantic Singapore."

Ye gods and little fishes.....if this is truly representative of today's scientific community then we are deeply in the crap.....
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You're obviously in no position to understand the immediate impact that Brexit has had on the British scientific community, and the higher education sector in general. European student numbers are expected to fall dramatically in the event of a 'hard' Brexit, which will leave a huge black-hole in Univeristy finances - which will ultimately come down to the British taxpayer to cough up for. Those supposed "£350m a week" savings will quickly be swallowed up from these losses alone.

Furthermore, there is now an emerging reluctance from our partners across Europe to do any more collaborative work with us over the long-run due to the lack of clarity regarding free movement of people, and intellectual goods.

But hey ho.
 
Number_25 said:
You're obviously in no position to understand the immediate impact that Brexit has had on the British scientific community, and the higher education sector in general. European student numbers are expected to fall dramatically in the event of a 'hard' Brexit, which will leave a huge black-hole in Univeristy finances - which will ultimately come down to the British taxpayer to cough up for. Those supposed "£350m a week" savings will quickly be swallowed up from these losses alone.

Furthermore, there is now an emerging reluctance from our partners across Europe to do any more collaborative work with us over the long-run due to the lack of clarity regarding free movement of people, and intellectual goods.

But hey ho.
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stop pinching my hey hos!lol
 
Joey66 said:
Is that you tiny Blkair hes just spent 10 million to stop this populist vote he disagrees with!
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Might as well ask, considering your masses of knowledge (you must surely know a lot more than these "bloody experts") - what you suppose the entire higher education sector does in order to retain and increase both the current level of EU-origin international students, and collaborative efforts with our European partners on a large number of research projects?

This is exactly the problem we have, nobody has a clue and simply just shouting "we want out now" is going to put the country in such a terrible position going forward. I fully acknowledge the result of the referendum, but that doesn't mean that I can't in anyway disagree with the path we seem to be going down.

The vote wasn't for a hard Brexit, and I will not stand to be told otherwise.
 
Number_25 said:
Might as well ask, considering your masses of knowledge (you must surely know a lot more than these "bloody experts") - what you suppose the entire higher education sector does in order to retain and increase both the current level of EU-origin international students, and collaborative efforts with our European partners on a large number of research projects?

This is exactly the problem we have, nobody has a clue and simply just shouting "we want out now" is going to put the country in such a terrible position going forward. I fully acknowledge the result of the referendum, but that doesn't mean that I can't in anyway disagree with the path we seem to be going down.

The vote wasn't for a hard Brexit, and I will not stand to be told otherwise.
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The vote was do you want to stay in or out nothing about a hard or soft Brexit please post up the ballot paper it was in plain English - so easy to understand yet you , and many others just don't get it that you lost!
 
Joey66 said:
The vote was do you want to stay in or out nothing about a hard or soft Brexit please post up the ballot paper it was in plain English - so easy to understand yet you , and many others just don't get it that you lost!
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You seem to be lost here, my point isn't that we should go against the vote - it's that in order to leave with the least amount of damage made we need to take our time - however long that may take.

Simply "leaving" with no real consideration of the issues at hand would be disastrous.
 
Number_25 said:
You seem to be lost here, my point isn't that we should go against the vote - it's that in order to leave with the least amount of damage made we need to take our time - however long that may take.

Simply "leaving" with no real consideration of the issues at hand would be disastrous.
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We leave on our terms if it's hard Brexit so what they need us more than we need them no single market only for certain things without a fee, no ties to them other than trade by negotiations no fees - I want a complete break from this organisation ok!
 
Joey66 said:
We leave on our terms if it's hard Brexit so what they need us more than we need them no single market only for certain things without a fee, no ties to them other than trade by negotiations no fees - I want a complete break from this organisation ok!
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And what are your solutions to the problems I put to you above?
 
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