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Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
Ask for the Watford game to be replayed too going there with three defensive midfielders no fair to us blues!
You see when you e a democratic vote it has to be abided by IMO!
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Nigel Farage’s attack on Jo Cox’s widower is a new low. Enough
Owen Jones
These are times of grave danger, with dissent recast as treason, racism unchained and intolerance on the march. We must take a stand before things get even worse
Wednesday 21 December 2016 16.25 GMTLast modified on Thursday 22 December 2016 10.30 GMT
No more pussyfooting around: Nigel Farage and his associates have poisoned our country’s political culture, and it’s time to push back. Their offensive – in every sense of the word – has been so swift, so devastating, that we risk normalising it.
Let’s take a moment to absorb their latest intervention. In June this year, Jo Cox, a Labour MP, was murdered by Thomas Mair, a fascist, white supremacist terrorist. As he stabbed and shot her, he yelled “Death to traitors, freedom for Britain!” This was a political act: the use of violence to achieve political ends. The individual who politicised Jo’s death was the terrorist who killed her.
If anybody has a right to speak out about the dangers of hatred and extremism in modern Britain, it is Jo’s bereaved husband, Brendan.
On Tuesday morning, hours after a truck was driven into a Berlin Christmas market, Nigel Farage spotted an opportunity. “Terrible news from Berlin but no surprise,” he wrote, not even bothering to separate his horror and his vindication with a comma. “Events like these will be the Merkel legacy.” Brendan Cox’s response – “blaming politicians for the actions of extremists? That’s a slippery slope Nigel” – was logically flawless.
Farage’s response in turn – that Cox “would know more about extremists than me” because of his links to the anti-fascist organisation Hope Not Hate – is shocking on a number of levels. First, he is talking about a widower whose wife was murdered by an extremist six months ago. Second, he smeared an organisation that exists to drive back racism – at a time when hate crimes have surged after a referendum campaign made inflammatory by politicians including Nigel Farage.
Then came Farage’s sidekicks. “When are we allowed to say that Brendan Cox is a total arse?” tweeted the Breitbart columnist James Delingpole. “I’m sorry about his wife but he chose to massively politicise it. Who does that?” asked Ukip bankroller Arron Banks, accusing Jo’s widower – rather than the far-right terrorist who killed her – of politicising her death.
When Hope Not Hate threatened legal action to defend its reputation after being smeared on national radio by a prominent politician, Farage’s henchman Raheem Kassam accused the organisation of “using threats to attempt to silence political opposition. Idiots don’t realise how powerful he became this year”.
When Farage’s power was queried, Kassam responded with a picture of Farage and Donald Trump in the president-elect’s golden lift. Don’t mess with Farage, was Kassam’s implication, because he now has the patronage of the soon-to-be most powerful man on Earth. (You can donate to Hope not Hate’s legal fund here.)
These individuals are a political cesspit. They are almost farcically unpleasant comic-book villains. Kassam has called for Nicola Sturgeon’s mouth to be taped shut, “and her legs so she can’t reproduce”, while Banks has ridiculed journalists for reporting racist incidents. Farage himself stood in front of a poster featuring dark-skinned migrants and the words “BREAKING POINT” just days before the referendum.
Some say: just ignore them. Treat them as internet trolls who thrive on attention. They hate nothing more than being ignored.
This is, I’m afraid, terribly naive. These individuals are transforming political culture in Britain. Consider how much more venomous, poisonous and intolerant politics has become in just the course of the year. Left unchecked, it will get much, much worse.
There is a deliberate attempt to delegitimise all shades of progressive opinion. This is the approach of the rightwing authoritarian populism sweeping the western world: to treat all left-of-centre opinion as illegitimate, extremist and even treasonous. The British press – dominated as it is by rightwing oligarchs – is instrumental in forging this intolerant new culture.
Two months ago, the Daily Mail had a front page that read: “Damn the unpatriotic Bremoaners and their plot to subvert the will of the British people.” The Daily Express opted for “Time to silence EU exit whingers.” As Brexit encounters trouble – as it will – this will deteriorate, and rapidly so. Critics of the government’s Brexit agenda will be transformed into traitors and wreckers responsible for sabotaging Britain’s grand national revolution.
Online, you can see how hysteria and hatred are being stirred up. During the referendum campaign a far-right activist photoshopped a picture of me holding a whiteboard explaining my reasons for voting remain: it was changed to claim it was because “Britain’s loss of independence is justice for colonialism”. It was shared on various far-right websites, including Britain First. Using their own names, people responded by suggesting we “should start just shooting these freaks”, that I was “a traitor and [need] to be erased”, that I needed a “smack in the face with a baseball bat”, and so on.
From politicians to journalists, many of those deemed to be dissenting from the tide of rightwing populism have experienced the same. Next month Donald Trump will enter the White House, becoming the chief patron of the rightwing populists, and there will be many elections in which such movements are expected to succeed, such as in France and the Netherlands.
The atmosphere is intolerant now; the risk is it may become suffocating. And as it does, as more hysteria and hatred is stirred up, violent extremists – such as Jo Cox’s killer – will become ever more emboldened. For some reason we forget that it was only five years ago that the far-right terrorist Anders Breivik marched on to a Norwegian island and murdered dozens of young socialists. Why? Because he considered them to be traitors to their country, responsible for the “Islamisation” of Norway and Europe.
We face a great danger, and not even those who will suffer because of it have realised just how grave it is. Intolerance and hatred have been legitimised across the western world. Dissent is becoming treason. That is bad enough. But there are other violent extremists who are being both radicalised and legitimised across the west. If we don’t take a stand now, new dark chapters are soon to arrive.
Owen Jones
These are times of grave danger, with dissent recast as treason, racism unchained and intolerance on the march. We must take a stand before things get even worse
Wednesday 21 December 2016 16.25 GMTLast modified on Thursday 22 December 2016 10.30 GMT
No more pussyfooting around: Nigel Farage and his associates have poisoned our country’s political culture, and it’s time to push back. Their offensive – in every sense of the word – has been so swift, so devastating, that we risk normalising it.
Let’s take a moment to absorb their latest intervention. In June this year, Jo Cox, a Labour MP, was murdered by Thomas Mair, a fascist, white supremacist terrorist. As he stabbed and shot her, he yelled “Death to traitors, freedom for Britain!” This was a political act: the use of violence to achieve political ends. The individual who politicised Jo’s death was the terrorist who killed her.
If anybody has a right to speak out about the dangers of hatred and extremism in modern Britain, it is Jo’s bereaved husband, Brendan.
On Tuesday morning, hours after a truck was driven into a Berlin Christmas market, Nigel Farage spotted an opportunity. “Terrible news from Berlin but no surprise,” he wrote, not even bothering to separate his horror and his vindication with a comma. “Events like these will be the Merkel legacy.” Brendan Cox’s response – “blaming politicians for the actions of extremists? That’s a slippery slope Nigel” – was logically flawless.
Farage’s response in turn – that Cox “would know more about extremists than me” because of his links to the anti-fascist organisation Hope Not Hate – is shocking on a number of levels. First, he is talking about a widower whose wife was murdered by an extremist six months ago. Second, he smeared an organisation that exists to drive back racism – at a time when hate crimes have surged after a referendum campaign made inflammatory by politicians including Nigel Farage.
Then came Farage’s sidekicks. “When are we allowed to say that Brendan Cox is a total arse?” tweeted the Breitbart columnist James Delingpole. “I’m sorry about his wife but he chose to massively politicise it. Who does that?” asked Ukip bankroller Arron Banks, accusing Jo’s widower – rather than the far-right terrorist who killed her – of politicising her death.
When Hope Not Hate threatened legal action to defend its reputation after being smeared on national radio by a prominent politician, Farage’s henchman Raheem Kassam accused the organisation of “using threats to attempt to silence political opposition. Idiots don’t realise how powerful he became this year”.
When Farage’s power was queried, Kassam responded with a picture of Farage and Donald Trump in the president-elect’s golden lift. Don’t mess with Farage, was Kassam’s implication, because he now has the patronage of the soon-to-be most powerful man on Earth. (You can donate to Hope not Hate’s legal fund here.)
These individuals are a political cesspit. They are almost farcically unpleasant comic-book villains. Kassam has called for Nicola Sturgeon’s mouth to be taped shut, “and her legs so she can’t reproduce”, while Banks has ridiculed journalists for reporting racist incidents. Farage himself stood in front of a poster featuring dark-skinned migrants and the words “BREAKING POINT” just days before the referendum.
Some say: just ignore them. Treat them as internet trolls who thrive on attention. They hate nothing more than being ignored.
This is, I’m afraid, terribly naive. These individuals are transforming political culture in Britain. Consider how much more venomous, poisonous and intolerant politics has become in just the course of the year. Left unchecked, it will get much, much worse.
There is a deliberate attempt to delegitimise all shades of progressive opinion. This is the approach of the rightwing authoritarian populism sweeping the western world: to treat all left-of-centre opinion as illegitimate, extremist and even treasonous. The British press – dominated as it is by rightwing oligarchs – is instrumental in forging this intolerant new culture.
Two months ago, the Daily Mail had a front page that read: “Damn the unpatriotic Bremoaners and their plot to subvert the will of the British people.” The Daily Express opted for “Time to silence EU exit whingers.” As Brexit encounters trouble – as it will – this will deteriorate, and rapidly so. Critics of the government’s Brexit agenda will be transformed into traitors and wreckers responsible for sabotaging Britain’s grand national revolution.
Online, you can see how hysteria and hatred are being stirred up. During the referendum campaign a far-right activist photoshopped a picture of me holding a whiteboard explaining my reasons for voting remain: it was changed to claim it was because “Britain’s loss of independence is justice for colonialism”. It was shared on various far-right websites, including Britain First. Using their own names, people responded by suggesting we “should start just shooting these freaks”, that I was “a traitor and [need] to be erased”, that I needed a “smack in the face with a baseball bat”, and so on.
From politicians to journalists, many of those deemed to be dissenting from the tide of rightwing populism have experienced the same. Next month Donald Trump will enter the White House, becoming the chief patron of the rightwing populists, and there will be many elections in which such movements are expected to succeed, such as in France and the Netherlands.
The atmosphere is intolerant now; the risk is it may become suffocating. And as it does, as more hysteria and hatred is stirred up, violent extremists – such as Jo Cox’s killer – will become ever more emboldened. For some reason we forget that it was only five years ago that the far-right terrorist Anders Breivik marched on to a Norwegian island and murdered dozens of young socialists. Why? Because he considered them to be traitors to their country, responsible for the “Islamisation” of Norway and Europe.
We face a great danger, and not even those who will suffer because of it have realised just how grave it is. Intolerance and hatred have been legitimised across the western world. Dissent is becoming treason. That is bad enough. But there are other violent extremists who are being both radicalised and legitimised across the west. If we don’t take a stand now, new dark chapters are soon to arrive.
Agree with that but also vital to address intolerances in the Muslim (and any other) communities in an appropriately framed and tolerant way. Not doing so encourages people to right wing or intolerant views as they feel ignored and think that nothing is being done against excessive or offensive actions.
If one can promote tolerance at the same time as being firm that the country won't accept things against this, and do it in a balanced way that is not and cannot be viewed as biased against any community we will help create a balanced and fair society
I heard him say that on LBC old wounds Farage went on about the organisation Hope not hate who used dirty tactics against him in the past if its libellous they can sue him can't they?
Never heard of them so did not understand his statement TBH
The Cowboy
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Frankly, the phrase 'hope not hate' makes my blood boil. It's always used in the context of Brexit, suggesting that every man and woman who voted Leave is a hate-filled xenophobe. It's character assassination on a national scale.
I looked them up your spot on just an opposite to Farage no wonder he passed comment on them as I stated never heard of them if they are an anti brexit alliance - no wonder he made that statement if its below the belt they can sue him as they reported!
Farage is like marmite anyway never liked marmite myself, but can now understand why he had a go at that organisation two opposites always will do!
Seanjd
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Hope not hate is an anti-facist, anti-racist civil rights campaign group. It's used in the context of Brexit against the likes of Farage and his disgusting campaign. I've not seen anything from hope not hate to suggest that every man and woman who voted leave is a xenophobe. Perhaps you could enlighten.
The Cowboy
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My experience of the term on Twitter.
17.5 million voters for Brexit were not of that ilk you mention in your post, nor where they thick and stupid another tag they have been named either - The death of MP Jo Cox was tragic respected by all !
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
Oh right.
The Cowboy
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Your point is?
The Cowboy
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Except Farage and his cronies.
But according to the Remainers, that's what all Leave voters are like.
To be fair though, over 3 million people voted for UKIP at the last election, and I dare say that number will increase significantly at the next one. Whilst that clearly isn't representative of all leave voters, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't represent almost half of them.
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