Enough is enough...

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Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Despite the wailing on here I didn't think yesterdays performance was that bad. It was certainly an improvement on some of the absolute kelt we've been served up so far this season. I thought we were well worth a point at least.

Before yesterday I thought he was a dead man walking, nothing has really changed my mind on that but football is a fickle beast and he could yet turn this around. Despite the stick he takes from some on here, the bloke isn't a bad manager, and he could pull this out of the fire.
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I wouldn't argue with that as a statement of fact. But what I would add is that we were playing Brighton, a team that will most likely be relegated this season. The manager approached the game to not lose, which we just about managed thanks to a defensive aberration by one of their players. We should be dismantling teams like Brighton and not be content to snatch an injury time draw.

I think it's clear the manager has lost the players. If we wait for him to turn it around, which he possibly could eventually do, it will be far too late to save the season. Act now and we could still salvage something.

Long term I want him out. He's far too negative and appears to have a destabilizing effect on the dressing room. We saw signs of it last season in the Autumn and again at the end of the season. Cut our losses now for me. Get Unsy in and see how he does until end of year and, if he does well, extend it until the end of the season.
 

Koeman finished sixth at Saints as well

just saying

other than that, like, I agree.

But the time to act was probably in the international break just gone...
 
Joey66 said:
Harvey was successful assisting HK 40 years service to our club - fetched many youth players through one in Wayne Rooney - also our white Pele - Bingham should have won the league - harvey was sacked for coming 6th
Konman might get us 6th from bottom!
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..I was just pointing out a couple of Evertonians who hadn’t won a pot. Lot’s of clubs turn to ex-players as Managers, some are successful, some are not.
 
Eggs said:
..I was just pointing out a couple of Evertonians who hadn’t won a pot. Lot’s of clubs turn to ex-players as Managers, some are successful, some are not.
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The other lot haven't won much since their bootroom disintegrated, Unsworth and Dunc and big Joe for me in control of both teams under 23s as well
they will know the football needed to be served up the Everton way!
 

AndyC said:
Whilst it may read as a "Koeman Out" thread, it's more about the underlying issue of Everton no longer believing and acting like the club we once used to be.

I've been blessed with having seen the 69/70 title winning team, the glory of the mid-80s and along the way, some terrific football. Gordon Lee was never rated but when he had Thomas and Latchford, that side played some exhilarating football. Big Joe had us ultra competitive if not the most cultured of teams.

Right now, we're not seeing anything exhilarating or competitive on the field and that just isn't acceptable any longer.

But it isn't just on the field, there appears to be a massive attitude problem prevalent within the club, whereby certain people appear to get away with accepting second best. We don't appear to have anything like the right mindset to be "a big club" again.

It's that frustration that prompted the article with Koeman being the conduit.
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The root of all our many problems nailed right here.
 
AndyC said:
Whilst it may read as a "Koeman Out" thread, it's more about the underlying issue of Everton no longer believing and acting like the club we once used to
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Sorry mate, I like your writing, you're good with words, but at least 80% of your article was about Koeman and how the team's been playing this season. It was obviously from the heart, but what it wasn't, is an article about underlying issues at the club. If it was, then it would have started off with a short summary of the season so far, and then quickly gone on to say something like "But lets put that to one side and talk about deeper issues", so it just ended up as another Koeman Out thread ... which in some ways is fine, but lets not dress it up as anything else.

Go back and read it again, and see it from a general readers perspective. By the time you get to talking about Moshiri the whole tone of the article has already been set.
 
Woolly Blue said:
Sorry mate, I like your writing, you're good with words, but at least 80% of your article was about Koeman and how the team's been playing this season. It was obviously from the heart, but what it wasn't, is an article about underlying issues at the club. If it was, then it would have started off with a short summary of the season so far, and then quickly gone on to say something like "But lets put that to one side and talk about deeper issues", so it just ended up as another Koeman Out thread ... which in some ways is fine, but lets not dress it up as anything else.

Go back and read it again, and see it from a general readers perspective. By the time you get to talking about Moshiri the whole tone of the article has already been set.
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The thread title literally demands his sacking.
 

Joey66 said:
The other lot haven't won much since their bootroom disintegrated, Unsworth and Dunc and big Joe for me in control of both teams under 23s as well
they will know the football needed to be served up the Everton way!
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..these things can get too romantic. I’d prefer to look at the job Unsworth is doing with the U23s and use that to justify if he should be considered for the post. For the points I made in the last few days, I think he should be considered, but none of those were because he’s an ex-player.

If Unsworth made the step up again it’s a bit romantic to say he should be assisted by Royle and Ferguson. I suspect Unsworth would want his own people around him. He appears to work well with John Ebbrell. Royle appears to be fine in the role he has.

You mention the Boot Room, I think it was a Red in Souness who went a long way in breaking that up.
 

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