England v USA, 12th June 2010

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GhostOfDixie said:
Well the one person I know who hates Rooney, doesn't hate England. It's the bandwagon that does my head in, people following sheep because they think it's the right direction, but don't really know why they hate England.

I'm proud of my country, it's a country that in the past decades has lost an awful lot of it's children to other people's wars, trying to make other countries a safer place. And if were going to point the finger at hooligans, well I'd like people to have a look at how many people are killing their own citizens all over the world? In America gun crime is rife, yet most Americans seem to be still proud of their nation. How about people in Iraq and Afganistan, Pakistan, Somalia, South Africa, Sierra Leone, Korea. War torn (off and on) for decades. We have a stable nation with some great people, and it hurts me and disappoints me when people on here, who are English take pleasure in ripping into the nation for no reason whatsover.

Rant over.
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I used to be proud of my country, then it ****ed me over, now I have only contempt for it.
 
MikelsGoat said:
I used to be proud of my country, then it ****ed me over, now I have only contempt for it.
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How did it **** you over? I'm a massive believer in if you want something to happen then make it happen, but don't wait or leave it in the hands of others.
 
Not really the thread for it, nor I doubt would anybody see my point of view, I am after all somebody who gave up working for the sake of his Children, I think the Torys would call me scum.
 
I think England are better, but I can see a 1-1 draw here.

First game in, two possibly easier games coming up, both countries would take that.
 
MikelsGoat said:
Not really the thread for it, nor I doubt would anybody see my point of view, I am after all somebody who gave up working for the sake of his Children, I think the Torys would call me scum.
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Well my previous post still means the same for me.

You make of your life what you want to mate.
 
'If England can have an Italian manager and the English cricket team can be dominated by South Africans then surely football supporters are allowed to take a similar lack of notice of national boundaries.'

I agree with Tony Barett of the Times. I don't hate the England team, far from it, but I'm the first to admit that I don't feel that closeness to them, I don't view them as my team so to speak, I've never had that connection with International football in general in all honesty. To me it's like watching the Champions League.

I just want to see some good, entertaining football. I certainly won't be hoping England get kicked out but on the other hand I won't be be majorly disappointed if they do.
 
GhostOfDixie said:
Well my previous post still means the same for me.

You make of your life what you want to mate.
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Thats not true, not everybody can mould their lifes how they want.

I was semi-happy, working my way thru life, then suddenly I had 3 children to look after, went looking for a little help and was told to jog on.

Children change everything, yeah sure if you got none, the world is your oyster, but factor in children and then life becomes a little less a,b,c.
 
ToxtethBlue said:
'If England can have an Italian manager and the English cricket team can be dominated by South Africans then surely football supporters are allowed to take a similar lack of notice of national boundaries.'

I agree with Tony Barett of the Times. I don't hate the England team, far from it, but I'm the first to admit that I don't feel that closeness to them, I don't view them as my team so to speak, I've never had that connection with International football in general in all honesty. To me it's like watching the Champions League.

I just want to see some good, entertaining football. I certainly won't be hoping England get kicked out but on the other hand I won't be be majorly disappointed if they do.
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Well they are not my team, that is Everton, but they are my country. Tony Barrett is a kopite who along with the rest of his fellow fans enjoy the bumpy bandwagon of the Spanish sides, that is not supporting Spain because you feel them in your heart - it's supporting Spain because they are a very good side and the fact that Torres is like a god to them. When Torres goes, and he will eventually - there will be no Spain supporting fans in Liverpool.

Now I am desperate to see England win because I believe I and all English fans deserve it, if they lose I will be upset, but I will get over it.

I have no problem with your opinion, it's with those who go out of their way to make a point of hating England.
 
Many years ago I went to Goodison Park and I saw Alesandro Pistone arrive in a Porsche 911.

I love Everton, but from that day I can't say I felt close to any of the players. Not like I did when I listened to the radio in my bed back when I was about 10 to the endless cup replays with Sheffield Wednesday and Oldham.
 
You can bet that every single English Man, Woman and Child will be willing England to win.

As TxB said, defeats wont hurt others as much.
 
teppic said:
Many years ago I went to Goodison Park and I saw Alesandro Pistone arrive in a Porsche 911.

I love Everton, but from that day I can't say I felt close to any of the players. Not like I did when I listened to the radio in my bed back when I was about 10 to the endless cup replays with Sheffield Wednesday and Oldham.
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Oh this is bang on, this is what it's all about. How can we be close to players who can buy our street with a couple of months' wages?
 
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