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It's not me that extrapolated the data, it's a Lord Pearson. Sarah Champion, MP of Rotherham put the number at 1 million. Should we use that number instead.

Here you go.
I know you didn’t, not sure you’re actually reading what I’m saying.

And no we shouldn’t take Sarah Champion’s number as once again it is a guess based on extrapolating figures from a few areas and applying them nationwide. You wouldn’t do that with murders or other types of crime so why do it with this?

For clarity, I’ll say again it is clearly a serious issue that needs dealing with. But using made up figures does not help.

Also still not seeing any evidence of Phillips, Rayner or McMahon denying inquiries other than the Oldham one.
 
How many rapees by how many folk from a very specific ethno-religious background?

All very scientific stuff in here, as ever.
Strange isn't it, and seemingly from the same source as the utter bullspit* about alleged fake trans people wearing dresses to pounce on someone's drugged and unconscious wife. Don't dare question it though, apparently 6 months later it all came back in flashback and she was so angry she did nothing about it but pass it on to a mate of that specific accounts.

Nonsense!
 
Strange isn't it, and seemingly from the same source as the utter bullspit* about alleged fake trans people wearing dresses to pounce on someone's drugged and unconscious wife. Don't dare question it though, apparently 6 months later it all came back in flashback and she was so angry she did nothing about it but pass it on to a mate of that specific accounts.

Nonsense!
It's what I'm here for. Precise, fact informed debate and hot takes.

No left-wing echo chambers allowed.
 
It's not an echo chamber though, even though it is.
The Lords chamber might be a vacuum of good faith argument judging by the fella in questions rhetoric...

 
Strange isn't it, and seemingly from the same source as the utter bullspit* about alleged fake trans people wearing dresses to pounce on someone's drugged and unconscious wife. Don't dare question it though, apparently 6 months later it all came back in flashback and she was so angry she did nothing about it but pass it on to a mate of that specific accounts.

Nonsense!

You saw the messages, the fact you don't believe it says more about you - especially with this victim blaming.

Again, back on ignore you go.
 
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(and for the record, there is no victim blaming as there's no victim.)

[try-hard attention seeking numbskull, exactly the same form in this thread vs another minority]
 
Well well well...


Aside from being a failed UKIP leader...


Criticism of Islam

In 2009, Lord Pearson and cross-bencher Baroness Cox invited the Dutch Freedom Party leader, Geert Wilders, to show the anti-Islam film Fitna before the House of Lords.[24] Jacqui Smith,[25] then Home Secretary, subsequently excluded Wilders from entry to the UK. In response, Pearson and Cox accused the then Government of "appeasing" militant Islam.[26] Wilders appealed successfully against his exclusion, and the film was eventually shown in the Lords in 2010.[27]

Pearson warned in 2013 that UK Muslim communities were home to "thousands of potential home-grown terrorists". He said Sharia law was "running de facto in our land" and that calls for violence were not simply coming from a "few extremists", stating: "These people hate us with frightening religious fervour and we are right to fear them." His comments were condemned by Sayeeda Warsi, the Minister of State for Faith and Communities, who responded by stating: "It points at best to an ignorance about Islam and at worst a deliberate attempt to perpetuate a distorted image of the faith."[28]

In 2014, Pearson suggested that the Quran had inspired the murder of Lee Rigby, referring to "the violence in the Qur'an – and indeed in the life and the example of Muhammad". Member of Parliament Yasmin Qureshi called Pearson's words "lies" and "nonsensical rubbish", while another MP, Khalid Mahmood, called them Islamophobic and said: "Obviously he hasn't read the Qur'an. Islam is about submission to the Almighty. It is not about war against anybody else."[29]

Pearson invited Tommy Robinson to Parliament in 2018. A UKIP spokesperson said that Pearson had invited journalists to report on a question he asked in the House of Lords about grooming gangs and that Robinson was one of 160 people contacted by Pearson.[30][31][32]

In 2023, it was revealed that Pearson and Baroness Cox were members of a secret group called the New Issues Group, which had been operating out of the House of Lords for over a decade and collaborated with far-right, anti-Muslim activists.[33] Pearson has been described as a part of the counter-jihad movement.[34]
 
In 2023, it was revealed that Pearson and Baroness Cox were members of a secret group called the New Issues Group, which had been operating out of the House of Lords for over a decade and collaborated with far-right, anti-Muslim activists.[33] Pearson has been described as a part of the counter-jihad movement.[34]

Hope not Hate allege that the group’s purpose is to advance an anti-Islam agenda in Parliament through lobbying, drafting questions to be asked in Parliament, and promoting a Bill that concerns the influence of sharia courts.
Two life peers are identified as core members of the group — Baroness Cox and Lord Pearson — along with Tim Dieppe, who is head of public policy for the campaign group Christian Concern, and who Hope not Hate suggests is the current organiser of the meetings.
All three this week denied accusations that the group is “anti-Muslim”.
Mr Dieppe said on Wednesday that he has been a member “for some years in a personal capacity”, and is “pleased to support Baroness Cox by helping to organise some meetings for her”.
“The NIG can in no way be described as ‘anti-Muslim’”, Mr Dieppe said: “It supports Baroness Cox’s work to help Muslims, and Muslim women in particular.”
On Tuesday, Lord Pearson told the Church Times: “The New Issues Group is a group of people who support Caroline Cox in her valiant work trying to help Muslim women who are trapped in unregistered marriages in the UK.”
He said that that the NIG had been “mischaracterised” by Hope not Hate: “We are not vaguely anti-Muslim, and always draw the vital distinction between Islam and Islamism. But we do want to be free to discuss both.”
Baroness Cox has a long-standing Private Member’s Bill which attempts to provide legal protection for women whose marriages are currently certified only by sharia courts, and therefore hold no weight in UK law



Easy this isn't it.
 
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