ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

[ScouseBlueBoy]

So a Heyselite draped in his Bucharest flag leaning against a wall points the finger at us eh?

Nasty cancerous scumbag, supporting the only team in the world where his sort would fit in. Watch your kids.

 

[SteKelly]

I'm an 18year old Evertonian and I literally don't understand Liverpool Fans and I really want to know why.
Why are they all deluded and believe the opposite of everyone else?
Examples like Lucas Leiva is world class etc.

I know it's because they're just idiots but seriously, why do they do it to themselves?
I know a couple of reds who say they should be top of the league and johnson is best RB etc, fuming.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Wow that is the bitterest thing I have ever read.

And this is AF saying that kids!

GOT's resident grumpy guts even thought that was going too far. Says it all

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Don't know if anyone's ever read this but.. wtf

http://heysel--they-call-us-murderers.blogspot.co.uk/

What a disgusting piece of revisionist ****e that is.

Just shows the depths that the average kopite is prepared to plumb, in order to absolve themselves of the deaths of the 39 & airbrush that event from their history.

 

[Tubey]

Don't know if anyone's ever read this but.. wtf

http://heysel--they-call-us-murderers.blogspot.co.uk/

This is exactly what is meant by "always the victim, it's never their fault".

 

[Deleted member 28206]

I'm an 18year old Evertonian and I literally don't understand Liverpool Fans and I really want to know why.
Why are they all deluded and believe the opposite of everyone else?
Examples like Lucas Leiva is world class etc.

I know it's because they're just idiots but seriously, why do they do it to themselves?
I know a couple of reds who say they should be top of the league and johnson is best RB etc, fuming.

LFC are a brand, not a footy club and have an image to maintain.

You are best off not trying to understand, it's a long twisted bog of noise.

 

[Del]

Don't know if anyone's ever read this but.. wtf

http://heysel--they-call-us-murderers.blogspot.co.uk/

 

[Deleted member 28206]

HEHEHHEHEHEHEH

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Everton's main crew may not have been at Heysel in 1985 but their behaviour before the European Cup Final of 1985 was counted alongside the rest of the mayhem that was English football around that time.

:huh:

Passing the buck much?

 

[bluejock]

"It is a pity Liverpool Football Club should have to suffer the shame and indignity after 21 years of near unblemished competitive action in European Football"

"it was also a tragedy for Liverpool Football Club, who have always been regarded as the giants of football not least because of the conduct of their fans."

As their failure to deal with a changing game and allowing pigmies to run their club took a disastrous toll they looked around for a scapegoat. A turnaround that would have been admired by Joseph Stalin took place just a few years after Heysel.

Is it so hard for Evertonian's to work that out for themselves? Probably it is, we have to continue. We have to look at the Everton fans record during the 80s.

My favourite part is when he describes Liverpool fans as a delightful bunch of scallywags for robbing jewellers and using knives to cut open back pockets to steal wallets. Of course, if the person being robbed noticed and took exception to being relieved of their wallet...

if you tried to stop them looting your back pocket they would use the craft knife on you that was for sure.

This is seen as "self preservation" all down to Thatcherism.

Of course, Everton fans by comparison were "violent hooligans."

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

My favourite part is when he describes Liverpool fans as a delightful bunch of scallywags for robbing jewellers and using knives to cut open back pockets to steal wallets. Of course, if the person being robbed noticed and took exception to being relieved of their wallet...



This is seen as "self preservation" all down to Thatcherism.

Of course, Everton fans by comparison were "violent hooligans."

It's not even like rational people blame all the Liverpool fans for everything anyway. I blame the hooligan scum who just happened to be there supporting Liverpool. i know a lot of Liverpool fans who just want to go and watch the match and don't cause trouble. That's the majority. The tards in Heysel were the minority. But that doesn't change what they did and the club and it's fans needs to take responsibility for what happened. Going for the Old Firm defense of "The other side are just as bad as us like", just degrades LFC and it's genuine fan base who aren't holligan nut jobs

Any Everton fan who chants about Heysel should have a good long look at themselves though. Not down with that at all.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Any Everton fan who chants about Heysel should have a good long look at themselves though. Not down with that at all.

I don't agree with it either, but when you read stuff like this article, that is a genuine reflection on their refusal to accept responsibility over Heysel & then combine it with the fact that invariably every time someone relates back to Heysel they play the Hillsborough card, as a means of deflection - then maybe it's easier to understand

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I don't agree with it either, but when you read stuff like this article, that is a genuine reflection on their refusal to accept responsibility over Heysel & then combine it with the fact that invariably every time someone relates back to Heysel they play the Hillsborough card, as a means of deflection - then maybe it's easier to understand

It's only the barstools that do that though, not the fan base at large

When you do a Heysel chant, it's directed at the fan base at large, which isn't fair.

It's like when divvy's do chants about Munich to United fans because the United twaites did a chant about them. For every jerk your chant hurts you hurt 10 decent fans who don't deserve it

 

[ToffeeDan]

Made some fair points about our failures since 87 (somewhat spoilt by almost airbrushing the 87 title out of history), about how Kendall and Harvey didn't sustain the progress of 84-87 and some of the poor transfer decisions we made (both in and out) but the overall basis of his argument was flawed by his determination to convince himself LFC were bigger, better than Everton. The (objective) reality was that only LFC caused Heysel (sorry - "it was Chelsea") - obviously this was coming and LFC should have had a 10 year ban whilst the rest got perhaps 3 years. (Isn't the deaths of 39 people enough to justify that?).

The hilarity of "Liverpool beating Juventus" (a point he conveniently ignores) thereby earning the right to "certainly defeat" an injury ravaged Everton in the 86 European Cup (they beat us 3-2 at Goodison but lost 2-0 at Anfield) based I think on the 7-2 Screen Sport Super Cup win against Everton Reserves and the FA Cup Final beggars belief.

According to him the CWC was the minor competition. Funny how UEFA arranged the Super Cup between EC and CWC winners and not the UEFA/Europa winners back then, isn't it?

 

[davek]

Don't know if anyone's ever read this but.. wtf

http://heysel--they-call-us-murderers.blogspot.co.uk/

Yeah, you're called murderers because you killed 38 Italians and an Irishman. What else should you be called?