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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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Ashtonian said:
Is there not a danger here?

Ok thye have just spent 30 on firminhio and are spending the rest of the money on clyne. What happens when they sell stirling for 40-50 million? Wont the fans expect another 40-50 million spent on the team?
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How many more players do they want this window? Brenda's been hoovering up frees from the Championship for the whole of the last Month :)
 
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SpurtingLesbian said:
How many more plays do they want this window? Brenda's been hoovering up frees from the Championship for the whole of the last Month :)
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What i have tried to pitch to kopites is that in 2 seasons they have added around 16 new players to their squad. This summer alone they are adding 6 new faces into the first team.
 
Michaelcoyb said:
I know that Kopites are going over the top with this signing but trying to use his scoring record as a argument for why he is a bad signing is very deluded.

He is a no. 10 ffs

21 assists and 23 goals in his last two league seasons is not to be sneezed at for an attacking midfielder.

They defo over payed by £10-15m but that's what they have become.

Not proven in the prem though and for that price I'm definitely not sold.
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The problem is that they all talk about him as a forward because the media believes its his position. I told a red in my work that you can tell when a clueless kopite is talking crap because 1) He plays AM not CF. 2) Their lips move.

He is an attacking midfielder that can come in from the left, right or centrally. If he gets off to a bad start they will turn from great signing that forward - firmino. To ohhh his scoring isnt that great because he plays like a attacking midfielder. Anything to suit their arguments and look intelligent.
 
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport...heyve-never-heard-of-as-saviour-2015062599570

ROBERTO Firmino is the man to fire Liverpool to the Premier League title, according to supporters who only learned his name yesterday.

Firmino has signed from a German club no-one has ever head of for £29 million, and Reds fans are predicting great things for the right or left-sided player who is probably Brazilian.

Season ticket holder Joe Turner said: “I’ve always rated Firmino, ever since I first heard about him four hours ago. He’ll be the perfect replacement for Steven Gerrard, or maybe Raheem Sterling, or possibly Simon Mignolet.”

Fellow Kopite Bill McKay said: “It’s great this club can attract someone of Firmino’s calibre, assuming that calibre is high.”

Firmino said: “I am delighted to join whichever club it is that has just offered me £250,000 a week.

“Since childhood I have dreamed of being a desperate panic buy. It’s a great day.”

The Daily Mash just GETS that lot.
 
I can hardly sleep. I am so worried about what Liverpool is up to in the off season. Reckon I should start a thread.........uh, hang on....
 

Darth Toffeeman said:
The deal is probably already signed. Liverpool have to make it look like they are still big time by pretending to knock back 'derisory 40m' bids to eventually accept an undisclosed fee. Otherwise the cult will get restless and they will have a furious Aldo offering Sterling out for a fight live on North West Tonight.
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I wonder who this is aimed at...........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33265323
 
Brendan has been suspiciously quiet of late.
I'd expected him to be all over the media with his shiny gnashers gloating about Firmino but he's said nothing.
 
hullefc said:
A very good article.

"The second and far more troubling factor is how his pushing for a move has caused the English punditry class, especially those with a connection to the Liverpool front office, to lose their goddamned minds. For months now, a parade of ex-Liverpool players and newspaper writers have excoriated Sterling. Openly, publicly, in as ugly a fashion as they can without crossing the line into something too much even for the ravenous English appetite for tabloids and [Poor language removed] talk.

Leading the charge has been former Liverpool defender and current Sky Sports pundit Jamie Carragher. He’s been riding Sterling as far back as October of 2014, well before this current transfer saga kicked off in earnest. As things have snowballed, Carragher’s been right at the forefront, red-faced and wound up on TV, visibly seething about this kid taking on his club. Liverpool. Hallowed, you’ll never walk alone Liverpool".

"I can’t comment on systemic British racism, but I do know my lying eyes. When they’re making t-shirts for Luis Suárez to let him know that he’s supported after getting suspended for using a racial slur while doing everything short of calling Sterling uppity for years, well, one starts to wonder about some of the most visibly apparent differences between the two men. Hell, Suárez was halfway out the door to Arsenal and they begged him to come back. Sterling’s not gone anywhere yet, with only the buzz of £40 million City bids around him, and Anfield is booing him while he’s not even on the pitch".

"For the longest time, I’ve thought that Liverpool’s bluster, the sheer balls to strut about like you’re the best club in the world while you’re usually closer to 10th than 1st, was just that: bluster. It was, I thought, a way of keeping fans who remember the old days in line. A comfort against a world with new, big-money predators. A reliance on a creaking history in order to reassure everyone who buys tickets that the club still mattered to everyone in the world, that it was still the national treasure and cultural export it once was".

"But this is looking increasingly untrue. The only explanation that makes any sense is that the Liverpool brass believe their own line every bit as much as their fans do. The 2014 challenge wasn’t a blip brought on by arguably the best pure striker in the world having the best season of his life. It was a birthright, a return to form. Liverpool are the Knicks. They’re the 1980s UCLA Bruins basketball team. Their best is fading in the rearview mirror, increasingly remembered only by middle-aged men crammed in pubs and sports bars, whispering names like Dalglish and Souness in reverent tones, as if those greats of yore could be conjured by quiet invocations and clenched eyes. And when something resembling the Liverpool of legend re-emerges from the mist, as in 2014, the frenzy begins anew".

"So it was that on the last day of the season we were treated to the sight of fans haranguing Sterling as Liverpool crashed to an embarrassing 6-1 loss to Stoke, their heaviest loss in 52 years. Sterling, who was on the bench and played no part in the sorry display, was booed mercilessly by the traveling Liverpool fans. He was called a greedy [Poor language removed]. Then he was booed by England fans during the England-Ireland friendly. Definitely better to be right than good, Liverpool fans.

Really, why would Sterling want to be a part of that? It’s a bipolar organization, one where you’re bound to a monolithic obeisance to past glory while everyone is also really angry that they’re more likely to be rivals to Stoke than to Chelsea. Moreover, why would any young player want to be a part of that, especially an English one? Why subject yourself to the abuse which comes with being part of a Liverpool team?

Sterling’s going to leave. Maybe this summer, certainly by next. He has a touch more swagger than his accomplishments merit. His agent is almost certainly a villain, because sports agents are pretty much always villains. But I also hope he makes a billion dollars and puts a hat trick past a hapless Simon Mignolet while Jordan Henderson is pushing for an inevitable move away of his own. It’s the least Jamie Carragher and Phil Johnson and the like—bullies and loudmouths, all—deserve".
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What a post. The only issue I take with it is when they say they don't do it to keep some of the older fans in line, that remains a part of the carry on.

They like Manchester United carry themselves with a very particular arrogance. The problem is, for 25 years they've had nothing to be arrogant about. The put this into perspective, their league finishes over the last 25 years have been little better than ours were in the 70's (in what is considered to be a desperate and barren time for the club).

However they are simply too entitled and spoilt to accept the objective reality. The reality that is, they are now a provincial club, who have been lagging in the wilderness for a generation and no longer an elite of the game.

No amount of friendlies against Real Madrid Legends, no amount of punditry, of homage from commentators or bullying revisionism from the fans can change that. Slowly it's starting to sink in, and that's when you see the really nasty streak come out. Think a toddler having it's toy taken off him. Or the 15 year old being told she can't where her favourite dress.

Much like Everton, they are in the eyes of the world a bit of a nothing club. Of course fans will always think they are the best, that's a fans right, but they seem obsessed that everyone else has to share in this delusion. Every time a star player begs to leave to play for a big club, be is Suarez (3 times) Torres (twice) or now Sterling it rams it home even further. It exposes the lie by which they live their lives. The lie that they are a big club, the lie that they matter anymore.

Signing Firmino for huge money, well over what everyone else wants to play allows them to continue this lie a bit. They can pretend United wanted to sign him and he choose United over them. They can pretend the plan was to sell Sterling all along and Firmino is better. The cringey whopper "Tony" was on talksport yesterday doing as much. Trying to display his football knowledge that the presenters didn't know what footed Jackson Martinez was. This is the same man who made out Liverpools academy was "bursting to the seams with quality" a couple of weeks after we twatted them 4-0 at their ground. Even the knowledgeable ones talk utter nonsense.

What is at the centre of this nonsense, the hatred, the delusion are not idiots or braindead simpletons (though it is hard to distinguish) but people who are desperately trying to hang onto the idea that Liverpool is a big club. In order to do this, they have to behave in horrendous ways, argue black is white. The reality is too painful to grasp for them.
 


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