one poster suggested that they never use it and that it's Everton fans who tend to use it more......
FFS, my dads bigger than your dad
ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"
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one poster suggested that they never use it and that it's Everton fans who tend to use it more......
FFS, my dads bigger than your dad
Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian
The Unobstructed View
The Uruguayans have been weighing in.....
Luis Suarez, who has recently served an eight match ban for racially abusing Patrice Evra, has the full support of the fans of his former team, Nacional. Nacional are Suarez’s local team and he started playing for them when he was 14-years-old, so, like Liverpool, have stuck their head in the sand over the fact he is guilty of racial abuse.
The banners say: “Ferguson, wash your mouth out before you talk about Sir Suarezâ€, “Suarez, Uruguay is with you†and “Suarez is Nacional, Evra must be Penarolâ€. Penarol are Nacional’s rivals.
The FA have to accept their share of blame in this situation after allowing Liverpool FC to continue to spread the message that Suarez has done no wrong. Kenny Dalglish and Suarez have repeatedly claimed that he is innocent despite not even appealing the decision. The FA have let this to go on without punishment, allowing there to be some doubt over the fact he’s guilty, which means Nacional and Liverpool fans vilify Patrice Evra.
Luis Suarez, who has recently served an eight match ban for racially abusing Patrice Evra, has the full support of the fans of his former team, Nacional. Nacional are Suarez’s local team and he started playing for them when he was 14-years-old, so, like Liverpool, have stuck their head in the sand over the fact he is guilty of racial abuse.
The banners say: “Ferguson, wash your mouth out before you talk about Sir Suarezâ€, “Suarez, Uruguay is with you†and “Suarez is Nacional, Evra must be Penarolâ€. Penarol are Nacional’s rivals.
The FA have to accept their share of blame in this situation after allowing Liverpool FC to continue to spread the message that Suarez has done no wrong. Kenny Dalglish and Suarez have repeatedly claimed that he is innocent despite not even appealing the decision. The FA have let this to go on without punishment, allowing there to be some doubt over the fact he’s guilty, which means Nacional and Liverpool fans vilify Patrice Evra.
Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian
The Unobstructed View
THE first indications have emerged that other clubs will seek to capitalise on Luis Suarez's uncertain future at Liverpool, with Paris Saint- Germain suggesting that they may seek to sign the player this summer.
Manager Kenny Dalglish has not discussed the Uruguayan striker since last Saturday's refusal to shake Patrice Evra's hand heaped embarrassment on the club in the wake of the racism case and Suarez's eight-match ban.
Dalglish said: "I can only reiterate what we have said already. We have drawn a line under what happened and we just want Luis to concentrate on his football now."
Dalglish, who faces a far tougher task delivering the Champions League football Suarez will covet, must also seek to repair Liverpool's relationship with the player.
Suarez's conduct on Saturday has been a source of profound anger in the Anfield boardroom, but Liverpool are also aware that they risk losing him if he feels alienated.
Though Suarez has always declared Spain to be a nation in which he would like to play football, the appeal of the Qatari-backed PSG will have been enhanced by the comments yesterday of his Uruguayan national captain, Diego Lugano, who plays for the club.
Welcoming
Lugano risked reigniting the controversy Liverpool's three public apologies have sought to defuse by welcoming the Liverpool striker's refusal to shake Evra's hand.
He said: "You have to have balls to do what Luis did on Saturday. He followed his principles. We live in a democracy, and if you do not want to greet someone, you do not do it and less so if that person has made you experience some bad moments."
Suarez apologised on Sunday for snubbing Evra's handshake -- although he did not say sorry to the Frenchman -- and Lugano said the whole controversy was nothing more than a "football argument".
He added: "Take into account that England is historically a colonial country and racism is a sensitive subject, but we all know it has nothing to do with what happened between Luis and the Manchester United player. It's a football argument, and many false moralists and hypocrites have profited."
Manager Kenny Dalglish has not discussed the Uruguayan striker since last Saturday's refusal to shake Patrice Evra's hand heaped embarrassment on the club in the wake of the racism case and Suarez's eight-match ban.
Dalglish said: "I can only reiterate what we have said already. We have drawn a line under what happened and we just want Luis to concentrate on his football now."
Dalglish, who faces a far tougher task delivering the Champions League football Suarez will covet, must also seek to repair Liverpool's relationship with the player.
Suarez's conduct on Saturday has been a source of profound anger in the Anfield boardroom, but Liverpool are also aware that they risk losing him if he feels alienated.
Though Suarez has always declared Spain to be a nation in which he would like to play football, the appeal of the Qatari-backed PSG will have been enhanced by the comments yesterday of his Uruguayan national captain, Diego Lugano, who plays for the club.
Welcoming
Lugano risked reigniting the controversy Liverpool's three public apologies have sought to defuse by welcoming the Liverpool striker's refusal to shake Evra's hand.
He said: "You have to have balls to do what Luis did on Saturday. He followed his principles. We live in a democracy, and if you do not want to greet someone, you do not do it and less so if that person has made you experience some bad moments."
Suarez apologised on Sunday for snubbing Evra's handshake -- although he did not say sorry to the Frenchman -- and Lugano said the whole controversy was nothing more than a "football argument".
He added: "Take into account that England is historically a colonial country and racism is a sensitive subject, but we all know it has nothing to do with what happened between Luis and the Manchester United player. It's a football argument, and many false moralists and hypocrites have profited."
Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian
The Unobstructed View
MONTEVIDEO: Liverpool striker Luis Suarez received the support of Uruguayan president Jose Mujica on Thursday, who claimed the 25-year-old “is not racist†and hit out at those critical of the player.
Suarez “does not merit the media pressure to which they have submitted him to, because we know that he is clearly not racist, that he never has been and that he never will be,†the Uruguayan leader said on his radio show “Habla el Presidenteâ€.
Mujica went on to express his “solidarity with this marvellous boy on a football pitch, who has given us much joyâ€.
Suarez “does not merit the media pressure to which they have submitted him to, because we know that he is clearly not racist, that he never has been and that he never will be,†the Uruguayan leader said on his radio show “Habla el Presidenteâ€.
Mujica went on to express his “solidarity with this marvellous boy on a football pitch, who has given us much joyâ€.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I've been away, can you bring me back up to speed. Are the RS still racist b'stards..........
Taken from rawk towers ............how big is the chip on this brainwashed tossers shoulder ffs, he should be ashamed of himself for this post...
people of Liverpool are a strange bunch. The population is made up from an influx of immigrants from all over the world, due to it being the number one port in Europe for so many years. Liverpool boasts the first Chinatown in Europe and a plethora of other cultural influences including a strong Gaelic connection. Indeed, there is hardly a Scouser that can trace his family back more than 2 or 3 generations without finding a foreign influence within the family tree, and God only knows how many children have been sired from Scouse blood in the ports across the world, from Asia to Africa to the Americas, it is fair to say that the whole world had a massive influence in Liverpool and its’ population long before the 50’s when other cities got to see its first immigrants.
This multi-cultural makeup is deep at the heart of the Scouse psyche. Like Americans, there is a confidence to a Liverpudlian due to the fact that it takes a certain type of person to leave the security of their homeland and try his luck in pastures knew. Unlike an American though, that confidence has been beaten time and again over the years and has resulted in Liverpool being nicknamed “Self Pity Cityâ€. But is it though? Or is it a place where the sense of community is so strong that it is prepared to fight harder when injustice prevails?
During the war, Liverpool had more of its fair share of bombing from the Luftwaffe. Of course, many cities took a pounding, but Liverpool more so because of the direct links with America and the manufacturing industries that grew from the docks and became a major part in the war effort. The people of Liverpool were no strangers to despair though, many having only resided in the city after the potato famine in Ireland or to escape attention from various non-political parties who were trying to map out a future for Ireland in a less than democratic way – or the Governments who were doing the same. Such hardship breeds a sense of community. That can be seen all over the UK, but especially the East End of London, Newcastle, Belfast and Glasgow.
Everything was rosy after the war, and Britain gave the chance to people from all over the Empire to help us out with our jobs, as there was too much work and not enough people to do it. Liverpool, like all port cities was invaded, and many such immigrants stayed within a short distance of their arrival point bringing multi-cultural influence to the expanding cities as a result.
The 80’s brought Thatcher’s reign, and she targeted Liverpool for destruction. There were no votes available for such right wing politics, as it served up a greedy, individualistic mentality as opposed to a social, communal one that Liverpool so thrives upon. Liverpool fought back against Thatcher, and she did not like it. She publicly wished for Liverpool to float off into the Irish Sea and recent papers prove that she was happy to let Liverpool decline. There were few jobs in the city, the streets were overloaded with heroine and there was social unrest culminating in the riots.
Liverpool was not alone to this respect. Glasgow and Newcastle suffered the same fate. The manufacturing bases all suffered – there were few votes available for her in those places. Sheffield & Birmingham suffered too, as did many a mining community over the Yorkshire dales. The difference was that Liverpool received little help from Whitehall afterwards, and was it not for a personal battle between Thatcher and Heseltine, where she hung him out to dry but underestimated his abilities; her master plan may have worked.
All this time, the sense of community upon Merseyside strengthened. They were at war once again, this time against the British Government, not the German one. This community included the immigrants that were welcomed into the city from across the Irish Sea, the Atlantic Ocean and from Asia many years before. They were all in it together. They were all Scousers together.
Long before the country in general could see the devastating effect of Thatcher’s reign, the Merseyside population were standing up to it. The French resistance, if you like, doing damage to the evil that existed wherever and however it could. Whilst other cities were responding too, Liverpool was shouting the loudest, in one voice.
What puts Liverpool apart from other cities though, was the Hillsborough disaster and the aftermath. It was a disaster waiting to happen. The government treated football fans like animals. Or like striking minors. Hillsborough was caused by the governments’ police state and Police Force, as well as the FA. Football supporters around Britain now know that it really was a case of, “There but for the grace of God…†But it is only in recent years that the average supporter has realised who is responsible for Hillsborough and that it could just have easily have happened to any club capable of getting to an FA Cup Semi-final. The reason for the multi decade gap in the realisation of other fans as to what really happened is because before the very first victims were cold, lies were being told by the authorities about what went on. Those that were there on that fateful day knew that what they were hearing on the radio and television immediately afterwards was not true. The pictures of Thatcher standing in the Leppings Lane end brought anger to many – they knew it smelt bad. The community came together like never before. By the time the Sun printed the worst of the lies, the city of Liverpool knew that there was a cover up going on and knew the Government were involved. Once again Liverpool stood up to Westminster, once again a thorn in its side.
The Sun was boycotted and has never recovered. Only now is the rest of the country starting to learn the evil that that particular paper has done and there are other papers too who printed the lies told to them my conservative MP’s and Police Chiefs. The Sun never apologised though, and it has a history of disgraceful journalism. It is loathed for its lies, its nationalism its racism. “Up Your De Lores†and “Gotcha†headlines tell their own tale. But Liverpool is not so nationalistic. Is has been stepped on time and again by its own government and the Fleet Street media. Even the (main members of the) Royal Family snubbed Liverpool in the wake of Hillsborough, preferring to go to the funeral of a war criminal in General Hirohito instead. The city of Liverpool is not like any other city. It has a tendency to spot injustice and wrong doing earlier than others, mainly because it has had it harder than others in this respect.
There are many who believe that Liverpool is not, in reality, part of the UK. Almost like Scotland or Wales. This comes from the way it has been treated over the years, but also from the number of immigrants that make up the fabric of the city who have no pre-conceived loyalty to British Government. That’s right, whereas immigrants feel totally Liverpudlian; there is little feeling of Britishness. This feeling has also infiltrated the non-immigrants.
So you see, the people of Liverpool smell injustice, have a sense of community, and embrace other cultures.
This is why I cannot fathom what is happening at the moment over the Suarez/Evra affair. Liverpool is being tarred as racist, which is in itself a contradiction of the whole make-up of the city. Scousers are not racist, but something stinks in the whole affair, and that is why people are behind Suarez. Were Suarez a racist, then the reaction would be different. But the sense of loyalty has kicked in because that is not the case. One of their own is being tarnished, and worse still, the manager with it. The manager who led the city after Hillsborough, the manager who’s family has done so much in the hospitals of Merseyside and Wirral. The manager who, for every red in Liverpool, is untouchable.
Furthermore, it is against a warped and corrupt authority that the red half of Merseyside protest. The FA has proven time and again the contradiction within its ranks and rulings. It has carried out a kangaroo court in the witch-hunt and the piper controlling the dance is a knight of the realm.
Liverpool should have seen it coming. Not only did that knight try to persuade the footballing world that Benitez was disrespectful for putting a thumb up to one of his players after a goal was scored (in a game not involving United), but he is also a hypocrite in dealing with his own players’ drug issues, monogamy issues and downright violent assaults.
The FA’s and the Medias reaction to is all are also unbelievable. Evra’s evidence alone had more holes in it than Jocky Wilson’s dartboard and in reality, was enough to get him banned under normal circumstances for the exact charges that were put on Suarez. Ferguson has acted more disrespectfully to another club than any manager in the history of football by saying that Suarez should never play for Liverpool again. Neither has even been charged. Suarez had the kangaroo court throw the book at him. And then the bookshelf. And then the library.
23 years after Hillsborough, the fight for justice goes on, but the finishing line is in sight. The more that comes out, the more the guilty parties will suffer. Corruption and cover-up at the highest level will be in the public domain and now the Government, this Tory Government, has damage limitation to do. So does the FA. So does the media and especially it’s most powerful of owners.
Liverpool really should have seen it all coming. After the House of Commons debate on Hillsborough last year as a result of a 140k strong e-petition, one of the Liverpool MP’s warned that Whitehall would not take this lying down. Warned that there would be a backlash. How better to reduce impact of the forthcoming truth than to smear once again the city and the club involved. The London based media are all over it. They will be hurt because of how they reported Hillsborough, and the truth is near. The Manchester press have a different agenda, but an agenda all the same. The FA is likely to look extremely bad upon the release of all documents too. How better to soften the blow than to throw mud at Liverpool and continue throwing until it sticks once again. And Manchester United have much to gain by the castigation of Dalglish and the possible/probably loss of Suarez.
Luis Suarez is no more racist than Ghandi. He is not the angel that Ghandi was, but he is not a racist. This is not about Suarez, this is bigger than that. This is about the biggest cover up in recent political history. A cover-up that the rest of the country needs to be aware of, because it is was their government that instigated it. And they need to learn from history so that it can never be repeated. A corrupt government is the worst thing that can happen to a democracy, and had the country stood up and listened to Liverpool, perhaps the illegal war in Iraq would not have happened saving the lives of so many innocent people, including British Soldiers and Iraqi soldiers and civilians. There was confusion at the time, but an inherent trust in the Government amongst the people. Had they knowledge of previous government corruption, perhaps it would not have been so easy.
But why listen to Liverpool about the Government? Why Listen to Liverpool about the media? Why listen to Liverpool about the FA? I’ll tell you why. Liverpool has experienced it first hand and wants to warn the rest of the country, and the country would do well to listen. But instead the country continues to create stereotypes to mock the city; it invents catchy phrases like Self Pity City to try to keep the city down. Self Pity City? How about a city that fights injustice with a passion while others cannot even fight their own ignorance. How about a city that sees wrongdoing while others cannot see the nose on their face. The people of Liverpool have taken more than one for the team, and still get castigated by corrupt authorities with the support of the naive.
This is about more than a handshake, or lack of one. This all stinks of corruption and that is what this is about. The people of Liverpool are winning and the authorities and the powers that be will get a bloody, red nose. The truth will come out, but Liverpool has fought for 23 years and will not give up now.
The backlash will continue and more will happen. Murdoch and Sky will make sure of that. Ferguson will make sure of that and the powers that be in Whitehall will make sure of that. The City of Liverpool is up for a fight though and the trigger finger is twitching as I write
people of Liverpool are a strange bunch. The population is made up from an influx of immigrants from all over the world, due to it being the number one port in Europe for so many years. Liverpool boasts the first Chinatown in Europe and a plethora of other cultural influences including a strong Gaelic connection. Indeed, there is hardly a Scouser that can trace his family back more than 2 or 3 generations without finding a foreign influence within the family tree, and God only knows how many children have been sired from Scouse blood in the ports across the world, from Asia to Africa to the Americas, it is fair to say that the whole world had a massive influence in Liverpool and its’ population long before the 50’s when other cities got to see its first immigrants.
This multi-cultural makeup is deep at the heart of the Scouse psyche. Like Americans, there is a confidence to a Liverpudlian due to the fact that it takes a certain type of person to leave the security of their homeland and try his luck in pastures knew. Unlike an American though, that confidence has been beaten time and again over the years and has resulted in Liverpool being nicknamed “Self Pity Cityâ€. But is it though? Or is it a place where the sense of community is so strong that it is prepared to fight harder when injustice prevails?
During the war, Liverpool had more of its fair share of bombing from the Luftwaffe. Of course, many cities took a pounding, but Liverpool more so because of the direct links with America and the manufacturing industries that grew from the docks and became a major part in the war effort. The people of Liverpool were no strangers to despair though, many having only resided in the city after the potato famine in Ireland or to escape attention from various non-political parties who were trying to map out a future for Ireland in a less than democratic way – or the Governments who were doing the same. Such hardship breeds a sense of community. That can be seen all over the UK, but especially the East End of London, Newcastle, Belfast and Glasgow.
Everything was rosy after the war, and Britain gave the chance to people from all over the Empire to help us out with our jobs, as there was too much work and not enough people to do it. Liverpool, like all port cities was invaded, and many such immigrants stayed within a short distance of their arrival point bringing multi-cultural influence to the expanding cities as a result.
The 80’s brought Thatcher’s reign, and she targeted Liverpool for destruction. There were no votes available for such right wing politics, as it served up a greedy, individualistic mentality as opposed to a social, communal one that Liverpool so thrives upon. Liverpool fought back against Thatcher, and she did not like it. She publicly wished for Liverpool to float off into the Irish Sea and recent papers prove that she was happy to let Liverpool decline. There were few jobs in the city, the streets were overloaded with heroine and there was social unrest culminating in the riots.
Liverpool was not alone to this respect. Glasgow and Newcastle suffered the same fate. The manufacturing bases all suffered – there were few votes available for her in those places. Sheffield & Birmingham suffered too, as did many a mining community over the Yorkshire dales. The difference was that Liverpool received little help from Whitehall afterwards, and was it not for a personal battle between Thatcher and Heseltine, where she hung him out to dry but underestimated his abilities; her master plan may have worked.
All this time, the sense of community upon Merseyside strengthened. They were at war once again, this time against the British Government, not the German one. This community included the immigrants that were welcomed into the city from across the Irish Sea, the Atlantic Ocean and from Asia many years before. They were all in it together. They were all Scousers together.
Long before the country in general could see the devastating effect of Thatcher’s reign, the Merseyside population were standing up to it. The French resistance, if you like, doing damage to the evil that existed wherever and however it could. Whilst other cities were responding too, Liverpool was shouting the loudest, in one voice.
What puts Liverpool apart from other cities though, was the Hillsborough disaster and the aftermath. It was a disaster waiting to happen. The government treated football fans like animals. Or like striking minors. Hillsborough was caused by the governments’ police state and Police Force, as well as the FA. Football supporters around Britain now know that it really was a case of, “There but for the grace of God…†But it is only in recent years that the average supporter has realised who is responsible for Hillsborough and that it could just have easily have happened to any club capable of getting to an FA Cup Semi-final. The reason for the multi decade gap in the realisation of other fans as to what really happened is because before the very first victims were cold, lies were being told by the authorities about what went on. Those that were there on that fateful day knew that what they were hearing on the radio and television immediately afterwards was not true. The pictures of Thatcher standing in the Leppings Lane end brought anger to many – they knew it smelt bad. The community came together like never before. By the time the Sun printed the worst of the lies, the city of Liverpool knew that there was a cover up going on and knew the Government were involved. Once again Liverpool stood up to Westminster, once again a thorn in its side.
The Sun was boycotted and has never recovered. Only now is the rest of the country starting to learn the evil that that particular paper has done and there are other papers too who printed the lies told to them my conservative MP’s and Police Chiefs. The Sun never apologised though, and it has a history of disgraceful journalism. It is loathed for its lies, its nationalism its racism. “Up Your De Lores†and “Gotcha†headlines tell their own tale. But Liverpool is not so nationalistic. Is has been stepped on time and again by its own government and the Fleet Street media. Even the (main members of the) Royal Family snubbed Liverpool in the wake of Hillsborough, preferring to go to the funeral of a war criminal in General Hirohito instead. The city of Liverpool is not like any other city. It has a tendency to spot injustice and wrong doing earlier than others, mainly because it has had it harder than others in this respect.
There are many who believe that Liverpool is not, in reality, part of the UK. Almost like Scotland or Wales. This comes from the way it has been treated over the years, but also from the number of immigrants that make up the fabric of the city who have no pre-conceived loyalty to British Government. That’s right, whereas immigrants feel totally Liverpudlian; there is little feeling of Britishness. This feeling has also infiltrated the non-immigrants.
So you see, the people of Liverpool smell injustice, have a sense of community, and embrace other cultures.
This is why I cannot fathom what is happening at the moment over the Suarez/Evra affair. Liverpool is being tarred as racist, which is in itself a contradiction of the whole make-up of the city. Scousers are not racist, but something stinks in the whole affair, and that is why people are behind Suarez. Were Suarez a racist, then the reaction would be different. But the sense of loyalty has kicked in because that is not the case. One of their own is being tarnished, and worse still, the manager with it. The manager who led the city after Hillsborough, the manager who’s family has done so much in the hospitals of Merseyside and Wirral. The manager who, for every red in Liverpool, is untouchable.
Furthermore, it is against a warped and corrupt authority that the red half of Merseyside protest. The FA has proven time and again the contradiction within its ranks and rulings. It has carried out a kangaroo court in the witch-hunt and the piper controlling the dance is a knight of the realm.
Liverpool should have seen it coming. Not only did that knight try to persuade the footballing world that Benitez was disrespectful for putting a thumb up to one of his players after a goal was scored (in a game not involving United), but he is also a hypocrite in dealing with his own players’ drug issues, monogamy issues and downright violent assaults.
The FA’s and the Medias reaction to is all are also unbelievable. Evra’s evidence alone had more holes in it than Jocky Wilson’s dartboard and in reality, was enough to get him banned under normal circumstances for the exact charges that were put on Suarez. Ferguson has acted more disrespectfully to another club than any manager in the history of football by saying that Suarez should never play for Liverpool again. Neither has even been charged. Suarez had the kangaroo court throw the book at him. And then the bookshelf. And then the library.
23 years after Hillsborough, the fight for justice goes on, but the finishing line is in sight. The more that comes out, the more the guilty parties will suffer. Corruption and cover-up at the highest level will be in the public domain and now the Government, this Tory Government, has damage limitation to do. So does the FA. So does the media and especially it’s most powerful of owners.
Liverpool really should have seen it all coming. After the House of Commons debate on Hillsborough last year as a result of a 140k strong e-petition, one of the Liverpool MP’s warned that Whitehall would not take this lying down. Warned that there would be a backlash. How better to reduce impact of the forthcoming truth than to smear once again the city and the club involved. The London based media are all over it. They will be hurt because of how they reported Hillsborough, and the truth is near. The Manchester press have a different agenda, but an agenda all the same. The FA is likely to look extremely bad upon the release of all documents too. How better to soften the blow than to throw mud at Liverpool and continue throwing until it sticks once again. And Manchester United have much to gain by the castigation of Dalglish and the possible/probably loss of Suarez.
Luis Suarez is no more racist than Ghandi. He is not the angel that Ghandi was, but he is not a racist. This is not about Suarez, this is bigger than that. This is about the biggest cover up in recent political history. A cover-up that the rest of the country needs to be aware of, because it is was their government that instigated it. And they need to learn from history so that it can never be repeated. A corrupt government is the worst thing that can happen to a democracy, and had the country stood up and listened to Liverpool, perhaps the illegal war in Iraq would not have happened saving the lives of so many innocent people, including British Soldiers and Iraqi soldiers and civilians. There was confusion at the time, but an inherent trust in the Government amongst the people. Had they knowledge of previous government corruption, perhaps it would not have been so easy.
But why listen to Liverpool about the Government? Why Listen to Liverpool about the media? Why listen to Liverpool about the FA? I’ll tell you why. Liverpool has experienced it first hand and wants to warn the rest of the country, and the country would do well to listen. But instead the country continues to create stereotypes to mock the city; it invents catchy phrases like Self Pity City to try to keep the city down. Self Pity City? How about a city that fights injustice with a passion while others cannot even fight their own ignorance. How about a city that sees wrongdoing while others cannot see the nose on their face. The people of Liverpool have taken more than one for the team, and still get castigated by corrupt authorities with the support of the naive.
This is about more than a handshake, or lack of one. This all stinks of corruption and that is what this is about. The people of Liverpool are winning and the authorities and the powers that be will get a bloody, red nose. The truth will come out, but Liverpool has fought for 23 years and will not give up now.
The backlash will continue and more will happen. Murdoch and Sky will make sure of that. Ferguson will make sure of that and the powers that be in Whitehall will make sure of that. The City of Liverpool is up for a fight though and the trigger finger is twitching as I write
The Ghandi/Suarez comparison was a particular highlight in that
the poster has nothing to say but is taking a long time to say it me thinks.
A fair bit of history being re-written in that article. Liverpool had already been devastated well before Thatcher (she tried to put the final knife in that's true) - anyone remember the clearances of the 1960s? I also don't recall Liverpool standing alone against the Iraq War - the whole country was pretty much outraged by the Government.
I think I'll leave it there but it's rather like building a story around some historical events & adding a few half-truths (e.g. WWII fiction) to make it sound good. It makes the final picture/story about 10% of the truth & 90% of what the author wants us all to believe.
I think I'll leave it there but it's rather like building a story around some historical events & adding a few half-truths (e.g. WWII fiction) to make it sound good. It makes the final picture/story about 10% of the truth & 90% of what the author wants us all to believe.
The Sabotage Times article is also here - without the Gobsh1te replies
http://biffbifferson.blogspot.com/2012/02/kopites-are.html
http://biffbifferson.blogspot.com/2012/02/kopites-are.html
The Equaliser
Player Valuation: £50m
"Liverpool is being tarred as racist, which is in itself a contradiction of the whole make-up of the city."
It's the usual muddying of the waters between Liverpool the city and LFC for me. He makes some pertinent points about the city embracing immigration, which he then uses to attempt to justify 'the red half's' as he calls it, defence of Suarez. Because they just aren't racist like, which is historically proven like. They STILL don't get it.
It's the usual muddying of the waters between Liverpool the city and LFC for me. He makes some pertinent points about the city embracing immigration, which he then uses to attempt to justify 'the red half's' as he calls it, defence of Suarez. Because they just aren't racist like, which is historically proven like. They STILL don't get it.
teppic
Player Valuation: £50m
Jesus Christ.
ScouseBlueBoy
Player Valuation: £15m
Suarez: "one of our own"
He's only been there 10 minutes.
I am convinced they are insane.
He's only been there 10 minutes.
I am convinced they are insane.
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