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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

PaulPowersTash said:
I hope so, but I can't see it to be honest.
I and all other City fans just cannot get our heads around why we have done it?
UEFA waged war with City on FFP for over five years. They just didn't want to defeat City,
they wanted to completely destroy them. Fine them millions of pounds. Ban them for years. Force the
top players to leave etc and they were directly led & encouraged by the owners of Liverpool & United.
City spent over £50m in legal fees to fend them off. And now we jump into bed with them!
It just doesn't make any sense at all. Why not just let them go and at a stroke become the good guys
of football? Undo all of the negativity toward the club by the media, press and football fans in general?
Even if City do bail out, it's way to late for any redemption. The damage is well and truly done.
We have talked about football killing itself for years but on Sunday for those six clubs, teams and fans it died.
If we win the league now, then so what? The Champions League - so what? Carabao Cup - who really gives
a toss about that that anyway? It's over. City had a truly golden opportunity to become the new poster boys
of professional football. Instead they chose the money. Unforgivable.
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Yeah & look I appreciate we have had our ding dongs over state ownership in the past & the morals of it, but completely agree football changed for the fans of the six forever on Sunday, it's sad, truely sad.

I do think there is a chance to City to repair some bridges here though. There is a window for city, to lead the reverse & work with UEFA on a repair job, almost in exchange for a bit of respect & FFP going their way.
 

catcherintherye said:
What is a legacy fan? I'm seeing this a lot. Is this just a fan?
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I think it means the fans who were there pre 1992 and SKY.
Basically the old school. However, at City we realised about
7 years ago that us 'legacy fans' were of little or no value to the club as the
pursuit of the corporate fans became all important. I was kicked out of my seat
after 17 years at the Etihad to make way for the 'Tunnel Club' hospitality area
only to see from my new seat (where I didn't know anybody) my old seat
vacant almost every week. I was given a new decent seat for 2 years at the price
of my old seat and told after that I had to either pay the proper price of the seat
(£1,100 per season when I was paying £700) or apply for a new season ticket.
It wasn't just me that it happened to. The whole block went. A lot just binned it
off and the rest of us got scattered to the four corners of the stadium. All in the name
of money. So whilst this latest gambit is seriously dissapointing it is hardly a surprise.
 
number4. said:
Yeah & look I appreciate we have had our ding dongs over state ownership in the past & the morals of it, but completely agree football changed for the fans of the six forever on Sunday, it's sad, truely sad.

I do think there is a chance to City to repair some bridges here though. There is a window for city, to lead the reverse & work with UEFA on a repair job, almost in exchange for a bit of respect & FFP going their way.
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No problem. Good post.
I agree we have a way back but it's not a good one. To come back with our tail between our legs asking for forgiveness.
It should have never have happened. The owners and the management of the club have got this one totally wrong but they
could only see the dollar signs. As they say: you reap what you sow...
 

PaulPowersTash said:
No problem. Good post.
I agree we have a way back but it's not a good one. To come back with our tail between our legs asking for forgiveness.
It should have never have happened. The owners and the management of the club have got this one totally wrong but they
could only see the dollar signs. As they say: you reap what you sow...
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Thats what I dont get - I still dont believe their goal is sustained profit & incremental dollars. Evening if they are making half a billion a year profit, its a drop in the ocean
 
PaulPowersTash said:
I hope so, but I can't see it to be honest.
I and all other City fans just cannot get our heads around why we have done it?
UEFA waged war with City on FFP for over five years. They just didn't want to defeat City,
they wanted to completely destroy them. Fine them millions of pounds. Ban them for years. Force the
top players to leave etc and they were directly led & encouraged by the owners of Liverpool & United.
City spent over £50m in legal fees to fend them off. And now we jump into bed with them!
It just doesn't make any sense at all. Why not just let them go and at a stroke become the good guys
of football? Undo all of the negativity toward the club by the media, press and football fans in general?
Even if City do bail out, it's way to late for any redemption. The damage is well and truly done.
We have talked about football killing itself for years but on Sunday for those six clubs, teams and fans it died.
If we win the league now, then so what? The Champions League - so what? Carabao Cup - who really gives
a toss about that that anyway? It's over. City had a truly golden opportunity to become the new poster boys
of professional football. Instead they chose the money. Unforgivable.
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i cant get my head around city either,
the rs and utd have been stabbing them in the back for years,
if this had happened in the 90s city might not even be in the prem today!
 
number4. said:
Thats what I dont get - I still dont believe their goal is sustained profit & incremental dollars. Evening if they are making half a billion a year profit, its a drop in the ocean
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I thinks about exposure.
Hence the CFG set up. Maximum global exposure
As you say the money is irrelevant. However, until Sunday it had
to be done within the confines of FFP or similar. Not any more.
 
nikom court said:
i cant get my head around city either,
the rs and utd have been stabbing them in the back for years,
if this had happened in the 90s city might not even be in the prem today!
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It's definately a head scratcher.
Liverpool and United plotted, planned and schemed to totally annihilate us
and were pretty blatant about it. I just can't work it out to be honest.
 
PaulPowersTash said:
I thinks about exposure.
Hence the CFG set up. Maximum global exposre.
As you say the money is irrelevant. However, unti Sunday it had
to be done within the confines of FFP or similar. Not any more.
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Yeah 100% it's about exposure, but I think it has to be "good exposure" for Global PR (or sportswashing - not a dig) model work.

There is no point in Saudi getting Fury and AJ over for a fight & then banning women, having corporal punishment for entertainment in the build up. They will show off a different side of the state, that is the entire point of the enterprise. Abu Dhabi / Mansour want to be seen as the good guys. Im truely baffled.

And please dont take my example as trying to stir or have a go at city, i'm not; im just using an extreme to underpin how bizarre a decision it is
 

number4. said:
Yeah 100% it's about exposure, but I think it has to be "good exposure" for Global PR (or sportswashing - not a dig) model work.

There is no point in Saudi getting Fury and AJ over for a fight & then banning women, having corporal punishment for entertainment in the build up. They will show off a different side of the state, that is the entire point of the enterprise. Abu Dhabi / Mansour want to be seen as the good guys. Im truely baffled.
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I can see Mansour being talked into this by our CEO Ferran Soriano (one of Laporta's ex cronies) who is just a 100% money man.
Bad decision by the sheik.
 

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