ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[davek]

Carraghter doesn't come across well compared to Gary N

He's too reactive and emotional...and he isn't prepared to be as objective as Neville.

That's why you got hours worth of bluster out of him last night, whereas Neville (when he wasn't eulogising the "integrity" of the LFC of the past) was hitting bullseyes all night.

 

[peteblue]

He's too reactive and emotional...and he isn't prepared to be as objective as Neville.

That's why you got hours worth of bluster out of him last night, whereas Neville (when he wasn't eulogising the "integrity" of the LFC of the past) was hitting bullseyes all night.

My view exactly.....Neville did an excellent hatchet job....

 

[KaiserEFC]

Must be a bit of a shitter realising the club you’ve followed with cult like intensity and by wearing a lot of badges since the day you were capable of semi independent thought would rather have a new breed of fan in say; Malaysia who watches sat on the sofa with a monthly subscription to Liverpool, United and Real Madrid and hasn’t got any interest in what an Anfield is or who a Shankly or a Paisley is.

I know I hate them but that’s has got to absolutely suck for their actual fans and even if the club go back on all of this they’ve showed their hand and made clear what they actually want as an institution.

 

[Cool_Blue]

A lot of the players are part of the problem. Massive salaries and wanting more and more. It’s become obscene with their and their agents demands.

Yes they are, but........ I would love to know what many of them will be thinking about this, if expulsion or points deductions happen in the PL or CL. And if they are banned from playing in international fixtures?

For instance, could they, would they, refuse to play for their club? And if threatened with legal action by their club, they could probably argue, quite rightly, that they didn’t sign up to play in something they disagree with.

 

[f.t.r.s]

If klopp and his players have the integrity they claim...
He'll offer to resign and they'll refuse to play untill the owners back down and pull out of this footballing abomination

 

[davek]

Klopp has completely failed to show a lead over this issue. Bleating about how he doesn't get involved in decisions and for people to stop attacking their players.

Man of straw.

The Kopites are pathetic trying to spin his piss poor words.

 

[Cool_Blue]

Mosh spot on tbf, made some good points

Wrong thread, sorry!!

 

[catcherintherye]

He's too reactive and emotional...and he isn't prepared to be as objective as Neville.

That's why you got hours worth of bluster out of him last night, whereas Neville (when he wasn't eulogising the "integrity" of the LFC of the past) was hitting bullseyes all night.

He's more inconsistent. He can't just say it straight and starts throwing irrelevant things in like Null and void (yes Jamie, like Cancelling a season like Holland, France, Scotland, the women's game, tier 3 and down did) to stop a raging pandemic spreading and thus saving lives is morally akin to trying to cream off more money for the super rich.

However when he speaks well his words hold weight. He is openly against the Super League idea. The issue is, quite quickly we would have to move beyond your Carraghers in this world to get the changes required.

They both remind me of Trade union leaders, Neville a more left one, Carragher a more right one (relatively speaking). You can work with both critically, but will have to move beyond both at some point, but Neville will stick around longer.

He's absolutely rattled Klopp as well, so hopefully people keep doing that until he has the decency to re-commit to what he said 2 years ago (or Milner actually said last night).

 

[catcherintherye]

Gary Neville reckons City might be the one to break and he can’t understand why they ever got involved in the first place.

I’d say they have the least to gain from all this.

I would say City and Chelsea most likely. Apparently told last minute and clearly the restrictions on spend (so financial fixing) will be aimed at preventing them competing.

In all honesty, if City and Chelsea stayed, the rest can go. What are Arsenal and especially Spurs really bringing? United and Liverpool are big names, but their value is not as big as what they want in return.

Keep Chelsea and City, and in honesty they alongside PSG will end up poaching most of the sides who leave top players for free when they can break their contracts. Especially once financial restrictions are gone.

 

[Seathestars]

Klopp has completely failed to show a lead over this issue. Bleating about how he doesn't get involved in decisions and for people to stop attacking their players.

Man of straw.

The Kopites are pathetic trying to spin his piss poor words.

Absolute horrible wicked species. The difference between him and the likes of AncelottI, Martinez, , Pep, Scott Parker, Bielsa, Nuno Santo and a whole host of others.

Those last two questions.
He was nasty in his reply to the penultimate question and smirked at the last question before the guy had even finished asking it.

 

[catcherintherye]

I still cant get over this and why it hasn't been picked up (to my knowledge).

Klopp and his Liverpool players - who will wear at the drop of a hat any media eye catching t-shirt - REFUSED to wear those t-shirts condemning this outrage.

I suppose they feel more comfortable standing up for the rights of their racist players than they do the football family.

I really hope Brighton repeat this tonight. It will start to become a story either way. Either Chelsea where them, and wow. Or they don't and Chelsea will get slaughtered for it.

 

[catcherintherye]

Absolute horrible wicked species. The difference between him and the likes of AncelottI, Martinez, , Pep, Scott Parker, Bielsa, Nuno Santo and a whole host of others.

Those last two questions.
He was nasty in his reply to the penultimate question and smirked at the last question before the guy had even finished asking it.

The mans a fraud.

 

[catcherintherye]

alan shearer on bbc breakfast with old horsey teeth,not pulling any punches,
"just throw them out of the PL"

It's nuts that this is now the mainstream view from loads of pundits and prominent people now.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Must be a bit of a shitter realising the club you’ve followed with cult like intensity and by wearing a lot of badges since the day you were capable of semi independent thought would rather have a new breed of fan in say; Malaysia who watches sat on the sofa with a monthly subscription to Liverpool, United and Real Madrid and hasn’t got any interest in what an Anfield is or who a Shankly or a Paisley is.

I know I hate them but that’s has got to absolutely suck for their actual fans and even if the club go back on all of this they’ve showed their hand and made clear what they actually want as an institution.

I think we need to remember that the majority of their proper fans (i.e. ones who actually support the team because of a genuine connection and not just because they like watching them on telly) are against this whole thing

Not spoken to one proper supporter who supports it

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

The mans a fraud.

I've always thought there was genuinely something a bit sinister about him

I've said it before and I'll say it again;

He's everyone's mate until he can't get what he wants