Ebola? Who Cares?? It's all about MERS now.

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We need to stop being "nice" about isolation for the contacts. Civil liberties be damned for the moment. The 2nd nurse got on a frickin plane. Why? Why would you do that? I can not even imagine it. Sure you felt fine before, but that doesn't mean you can't develop symptoms while on the plane or in the store...wherever.

If I was exposed, I'd be held up in my house scared out of my mind I'd infect anyone else if I left. Bad enough I could get sick and die....don't want to take anyone down with me.
 
Took my husband to the local ER at the weekend for a complaint unrelated to any flu like symptoms.

Within the first five questions, and being on site for less than 10mins, we were asked "could you have been exposed to Ebola". Nurse said that it was now included high up on the automatic checkups that they have to enter into the computer. She said that they usually take ages to alter the computer system but this had gone in quickly after the Texas case.
 
LinekersLegs said:
Took my husband to the local ER at the weekend for a complaint unrelated to any flu like symptoms.

Within the first five questions, and being on site for less than 10mins, we were asked "could you have been exposed to Ebola". Nurse said that it was now included high up on the automatic checkups that they have to enter into the computer. She said that they usually take ages to alter the computer system but this had gone in quickly after the Texas case.
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Have been discussing this with a friend who works in an ER on the East Coast. He doesn't think any hospital in the US is yet prepared, at least not all staff/all protocols, but I'm arguing that beginning today most will take notice and be better prepared. What I wonder is whether these 2 healthcare workers were in the original 48 being monitored.
 
SerenityNigh said:
Have been discussing this with a friend who works in an ER on the East Coast. He doesn't think any hospital in the US is yet prepared, at least not all staff/all protocols, but I'm arguing that beginning today most will take notice and be better prepared. What I wonder is whether these 2 healthcare workers were in the original 48 being monitored.
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Yes and it would be nice to know what instructions those 48 were given eg should they limit contacts with other people or restrict close environments like planes etc.
 
SerenityNigh said:
Have been discussing this with a friend who works in an ER on the East Coast. He doesn't think any hospital in the US is yet prepared, at least not all staff/all protocols, but I'm arguing that beginning today most will take notice and be better prepared. What I wonder is whether these 2 healthcare workers were in the original 48 being monitored.
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My understanding is they both were in the initial group and were "self-monitoring". I don't believe they were restricted because they had PPE (sort of) so the risk was thought to be less than family members or other contacts that didn't have PPE. They were allowed travel, but not commercial air travel.

Non-HCW were being monitored by health dept and/or CDC and more restricted movement especially the initial patient's family. I know they ended up putting that family into "enforced" quarantine in the home (monitored by police) after they left the apartment several times.

I guess CDC thought HCW would understand and follow the rules and general common sense. I'd also guess that ends now.
 
RAFUH said:
My understanding is they both were in the initial group and were "self-monitoring". I don't believe they were restricted because they had PPE (sort of) so the risk was thought to be less than family members or other contacts that didn't have PPE. They were allowed travel, but not commercial air travel.

Non-HCW were being monitored by health dept and/or CDC and more restricted movement especially the initial patient's family. I know they ended up putting that family into "enforced" quarantine in the home (monitored by police) after they left the apartment several times.

I guess CDC thought HCW would understand and follow the rules and general common sense. I'd also guess that ends now.
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Wasn't the 2nd healthcare worker on a commercial flight the day prior to showing symptoms?
 
RAFUH said:
I guess CDC thought HCW would understand and follow the rules and general common sense. I'd also guess that ends now
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Especially as the nurse apparently knew before she got on the plane that she had a fever.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/eb...ore-boarding-flight-2014-10-15?dist=countdown

Frieden said the worker was part of a contingent of health-care workers at the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas that had high exposure to Thomas Duncan, the patient who carried the Ebola virus with him from Liberia and later died from the disease.

The nurse, identified in media reports as Amber Vinson, may have been handling Duncan’s bodily fluids and become exposed, along with fellow nurse Nina Pham, 26, who was said to have been diagnosed with Ebola over the weekend, but her condition reportedly is improving.
Plus, Vinson told authorities she took her temperature just before boarding a flight from Cleveland back to Dallas on Monday. Vinson had traveled to Cleveland on Oct. 10. When she boarded, she was discovered to have a temperature of 99.5 degrees.

“By both those criteria, she should not have been on that plane,” Frieden said in a conference call with reporters. “This second health-care worker case is very troubling.”
 
RAFUH said:
We need to stop being "nice" about isolation for the contacts. Civil liberties be damned for the moment. The 2nd nurse got on a frickin plane. Why? Why would you do that? I can not even imagine it. Sure you felt fine before, but that doesn't mean you can't develop symptoms while on the plane or in the store...wherever.

If I was exposed, I'd be held up in my house scared out of my mind I'd infect anyone else if I left. Bad enough I could get sick and die....don't want to take anyone down with me.
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I feel the same about the common cold.
 
SerenityNigh said:
Wasn't the 2nd healthcare worker on a commercial flight the day prior to showing symptoms?
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Aye

After being told not to travel commercially. What kind of message is this sending to the public if our own healthcare workers are going about their business like its not really a big deal. Embarrassing. Complete and utter embarrassment.
 
RAFUH said:
We need to stop being "nice" about isolation for the contacts. Civil liberties be damned for the moment. The 2nd nurse got on a frickin plane. Why? Why would you do that? I can not even imagine it. Sure you felt fine before, but that doesn't mean you can't develop symptoms while on the plane or in the store...wherever.

If I was exposed, I'd be held up in my house scared out of my mind I'd infect anyone else if I left. Bad enough I could get sick and die....don't want to take anyone down with me.
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If I contracted ebola, I'd spend my last couple of days on this earth as a human weapon. I'd fill a super soaker with my sneezes and invade France.
 
blue4eva77 said:
Aye

After being told not to travel commercially. What kind of message is this sending to the public if our own healthcare workers are going about their business like its not really a big deal. Embarrassing. Complete and utter embarrassment.
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He/she just risked intentionally innocent peeps. Jail.
 
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