Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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There is more to the Travel Ban than simply it being a Muslim ban. These countries aren't able to sufficiently identify who is who amongst their population much of the time. Do you allow anyone to enter your home at any time ? Or do you allow in just family and friends? I don't know about you but if I don't know you and I cannot verify who you are then I am not letting you into my home. So why should a country be any different ?

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they've got these things called "visas," mate. very difficult to obtain. believe me.

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visitor.html
 
The Australian leader. You really think he was insulted by Trump. Turnball and the Media here hardly made a deal of it. Lasted all of one day. Turnbull himself made fun of Trump. If these leaders you mention, and I wouldn't exactly call Kim Jong-Un a leader are worried about some minor insults then they should get out of the chair. And Merkel is a joke anyway.

There is more to the Travel Ban than simply it being a Muslim ban. These countries aren't able to sufficiently identify who is who amongst their population much of the time. Do you allow anyone to enter your home at any time ? Or do you allow in just family and friends? I don't know about you but if I don't know you and I cannot verify who you are then I am not letting you into my home. So why should a country be any different ? And my friend you ask. He agrees with Trumps stance. He left Iraq with his documents and did his time in a camp waiting for his chance to come to Australia. Not short cuts. If he doesn't trust people from his own country in some instances being genuine then how can some else ?

Another assumption that I'm a brainwashed rightie ? Because I offer a different perspective and don't align myself how you wish ? I'll return the asusmption then, Did you or do you go to Berkley? (See how ridiculous that is)

As for Fox News. I live in Australia. I'm aware of some of the hosts especially Hannity who I agree is too much. I do however like Tucker Carlson from what I get to watch on youtube.

Where is the same critique for Cnn, Nbc etc ?

Insulting a foreign leader no matter how he/she takes it as the supposed leader of the free world is unacceptable. I saw how turnball responded and i would expect nothing less of an Australian laughing it off. Great people lived there for many years. But thats not the point. You should not as a leader go around insulting and get angry of silly [Poor language removed] with your allies. Getting in a hump when they don't agree.

You obviously have no clue about the countries listed. Your whole paragraph is pure fear mongering, the same type of sh*t from the likes of fox news and breitbart (I will explain that they have an absolute agenda nowadays). Most of the countries listed are actually better off than Trump makes out and have no issues with terrorism nor have any of their people been listed on the FBI wanted list or flagged. Most of the terrorist who have been flagged and who have plotted or caused pain in a foriegn land were from developed countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Britain, Holland, Germany and of course the US itself.

I am an immigrant to the US so i know how hard and strict already it is to get a visa so BS on you thinking its easy to walk in and out that's pure tripe. There is no need for bans especially focused on the arab and muslim world because quite simply the system is already good enough here.

Now the news sites BS if you think NBC, CNN and the rest of the "fake" media lie and have an agenda as fox and breitbart and the right media. Watch them and you will find its simply not true. I cover all of them and its apparent they have an agenda more than the so called leftist media. How is it Trump calls anything that is not Fox fake then?

You are an american living in Oz or an Australian? Have you lived in the US if not an American that is?

Your Iraq friend is in the minority of muslims that "agree with Trump" Have you not seen the protests.

Also the Berkeley comment makes no sense as a comparison and quite frankly as counter point or argument is embarrassing so i will choose to ignore it.

When you talk like a lemming quote "facts" like someone who watches fox all day i will assume your news feed doesn't go beyond that. When it walks like a duck quacks like a duck its a duck.

You chose to wash over all the negative Trump has done to promise me he will get better but have no real substance to what he has achieved nor have you debated anything actually factual to back up your claims about him being good to us non believers.

Also sorry the fact you like Tucker Carlson who is worse than Hannitys and O'Reillys put together.

So much so that his ratings have dropped massively as has Hannitys

I guess his base are getting tired of their constants attacks on the left..... On Obama and Clinton all of the time even though their man has won.

Tell me what other news sites do you watch? You assume i simply watch NBC and CNN even though i never once mentioned them. I am from Ireland and i now am naturalized in the US. I like a broad spectrum of news fromt he european to the independants to the mainstream, i don't like to sit on certain sites and news. There are others on here too i know are the same from their posts. Don't assume leftys stick to those sites. But if you are citing sources from Fox and only fox then of course you are in line with the right even if you don't realise it or not as you have said nothing to make us think otherwise.
 
Insulting a foreign leader no matter how he/she takes it as the supposed leader of the free world is unacceptable. I saw how turnball responded and i would expect nothing less of an Australian laughing it off. Great people lived there for many years. But thats not the point. You should not as a leader go around insulting and get angry of silly [Poor language removed] with your allies. Getting in a hump when they don't agree.

You obviously have no clue about the countries listed. Your whole paragraph is pure fear mongering, the same type of sh*t from the likes of fox news and breitbart (I will explain that they have an absolute agenda nowadays). Most of the countries listed are actually better off than Trump makes out and have no issues with terrorism nor have any of their people been listed on the FBI wanted list or flagged. Most of the terrorist who have been flagged and who have plotted or caused pain in a foriegn land were from developed countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Britain, Holland, Germany and of course the US itself.

I am an immigrant to the US so i know how hard and strict already it is to get a visa so BS on you thinking its easy to walk in and out that's pure tripe. There is no need for bans especially focused on the arab and muslim world because quite simply the system is already good enough here.

Now the news sites BS if you think NBC, CNN and the rest of the "fake" media lie and have an agenda as fox and breitbart and the right media. Watch them and you will find its simply not true. I cover all of them and its apparent they have an agenda more than the so called leftist media. How is it Trump calls anything that is not Fox fake then?

You are an american living in Oz or an Australian? Have you lived in the US if not an American that is?

Your Iraq friend is in the minority of muslims that "agree with Trump" Have you not seen the protests.

Also the Berkeley comment makes no sense as a comparison and quite frankly as counter point or argument is embarrassing so i will choose to ignore it.

When you talk like a lemming quote "facts" like someone who watches fox all day i will assume your news feed doesn't go beyond that. When it walks like a duck quacks like a duck its a duck.

You chose to wash over all the negative Trump has done to promise me he will get better but have no real substance to what he has achieved nor have you debated anything actually factual to back up your claims about him being good to us non believers.

Also sorry the fact you like Tucker Carlson who is worse than Hannitys and O'Reillys put together.

So much so that his ratings have dropped massively as has Hannitys

I guess his base are getting tired of their constants attacks on the left..... On Obama and Clinton all of the time even though their man has won.

Tell me what other news sites do you watch? You assume i simply watch NBC and CNN even though i never once mentioned them. I am from Ireland and i now am naturalized in the US. I like a broad spectrum of news fromt he european to the independants to the mainstream, i don't like to sit on certain sites and news. There are others on here too i know are the same from their posts. Don't assume leftys stick to those sites. But if you are citing sources from Fox and only fox then of course you are in line with the right even if you don't realise it or not as you have said nothing to make us think otherwise.

Assume much ? You know what they say when you assume!

Where have I assumed you only watch CNN and NBC. I simply asked a question about critiquing these channels as you only seem to be in favour of doing so with Fox.

I said I watched Tucker Carlson on youtube. That would suggest I don't have access to Fox. I like reading from everything too, I've already stated this. I also don't shy away from the fact Trump has his issues. Show me where I have. My position is he is now the President so get used to it, for at least four years anyway. How about working with him to get stuff done rather than the usual position of " oh Trump thought of that, it must be no good ".

Where have I suggested it's easy to get in and out of the US ?

Berkley comment was tongue in cheek in the sense that it was known as the school of free speach etc, however now dare to have a different opinion to the popular masses and you're racist, a bigot, facist etc. Have you seen those protests ?

Of the countries on the current travel ban which would you like to be taken off and why ? What is so wrong about Trump wanting to protect the American people ? His duty is to the American people, not anyone else. He is not the President of the World. I know in the past some might think the POTUS must be.

Which countries are better off than Trump makes out ? Of the current list I'm not sure I'd travel to any. Actually I wouldn't.

Fear mongering. Because I value safety of myself and family above everything else.

Ratings for Tucker Carlson. You want facts. Show me where they have dropped so dramatically ?
 
Regarding the Travel Ban. Also it's not about the system being good enough in the US. It's about the system in these countries being good enough.
 
Regarding the Travel Ban. Also it's not about the system being good enough in the US. It's about the system in these countries being good enough.

I think the point that most have with the travel ban is that its politically motivated rather than safety motivated. The travel ban wouldn't have stopped the Las Vegas shooter, for instance, or any of the other mass shootings that are mostly perpetrated by American citizens, yet there's absolutely no indication that gun laws are even something Trump wants to address because he knows gun ownership is a political hot potato among his base.

So instead he prefers to create the image that both jobs and security will be solved if he's tougher on foreigners. It's classic 'in group/out group' pandering, and whilst it's undoubtedly effective in a political sense, in reality it won't do a blind bit to improve either the safety or the economy of those he claims to represent.
 
Regarding the Travel Ban. Also it's not about the system being good enough in the US. It's about the system in these countries being good enough.

It most certainly is about the system in the US... Why would the US care how immigrants come and go in those countries if they already have a system to refuse them or turn them away here.

Only 15 countries operate a visa waiver with the US as in they can fill out a form and visit the US without applying for a visa as a visditor (holidaymaker, non working etc....). Of those the majority are the countries who are allies and EU members. I think the UK has a lsighlty different system as in not the same waiver.

So the US already restricts those countries as it does not allow free movement from them.

Technically then they cannot fly direct or indirectly to the US without applying for a US visa.

This ban is saying to them no visas will be offered at all to them. It has nothing to do with their system or their governments systems (countries in question)

You show me facts were the US has had trouble with these nations with immigration then as its been widely reported that the US has never had issues with them no more than any other country.
 
Assume much ? You know what they say when you assume!

Where have I assumed you only watch CNN and NBC. I simply asked a question about critiquing these channels as you only seem to be in favour of doing so with Fox.

I said I watched Tucker Carlson on youtube. That would suggest I don't have access to Fox. I like reading from everything too, I've already stated this. I also don't shy away from the fact Trump has his issues. Show me where I have. My position is he is now the President so get used to it, for at least four years anyway. How about working with him to get stuff done rather than the usual position of " oh Trump thought of that, it must be no good ".

Where have I suggested it's easy to get in and out of the US ?

Berkley comment was tongue in cheek in the sense that it was known as the school of free speach etc, however now dare to have a different opinion to the popular masses and you're racist, a bigot, facist etc. Have you seen those protests ?

Of the countries on the current travel ban which would you like to be taken off and why ? What is so wrong about Trump wanting to protect the American people ? His duty is to the American people, not anyone else. He is not the President of the World. I know in the past some might think the POTUS must be.

Which countries are better off than Trump makes out ? Of the current list I'm not sure I'd travel to any. Actually I wouldn't.

Fear mongering. Because I value safety of myself and family above everything else.

Ratings for Tucker Carlson. You want facts. Show me where they have dropped so dramatically ?

I can't be arsed reading back. But I will say that if Tucker Carlson is a source of 'news' for you...you need to find better sources. He's a cog in the propaganda machine...and isn't very good at it.
 
I think the point that most have with the travel ban is that its politically motivated rather than safety motivated. The travel ban wouldn't have stopped the Las Vegas shooter, for instance, or any of the other mass shootings that are mostly perpetrated by American citizens, yet there's absolutely no indication that gun laws are even something Trump wants to address because he knows gun ownership is a political hot potato among his base.

So instead he prefers to create the image that both jobs and security will be solved if he's tougher on foreigners. It's classic 'in group/out group' pandering, and whilst it's undoubtedly effective in a political sense, in reality it won't do a blind bit to improve either the safety or the economy of those he claims to represent.

If...and I do mean if...the travel ban was about security, then surely Saudi Arabia and Egpyt would have ranked 1 and 2?
 
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