Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon
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He didn't even deny it in the end!
Hilarious a press conference to deny the report and you don't actually deny it. I guess he really thinks he is a moron and only held the press conference to please his boss haha!!
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That was the most surreal media conference I ever heard. So his sec of state calls him a Moron (like we didn't know) and says he still wants to stay in office.
Of course it's got nothing to do with the fact that the Potus undermined him with his tweets over and over again.
Makes the Tories look like a professional outfit and that takes some doing
Am guessing that the president would be delighted to fire Tillerson, in truth he was been a woefully ineffectual SoS even without their personal tension, but has been talked out of it by Kelly. So Trump is just going to constantly snipe at him on twitter, similar to how he did with Sessions for a while, and Tillerson has been told to just accept it until,the end ofmthe year to avoid yet another vacancy in the admin.
Have very little sympathy for the any of them, other than those that are genuinely staying because they feel it would be worse for the country if they didn't, as it was obvious that Trump required obsequious devotion from his team very early on in his campaign.
I understand what you're trying to say but I really struggle to respect them and the use of that excuse . Given the presidents ongoing behaviour particularly the likes of Charlottesville I struggle to see how anyone with an ounce of decency or self respect could ally themselves to him.
Oh am sure some of them do use it as an excuse, both to others and to ease their own conscience which is why I used genuinely.
But I find it a bit frightening to contemplate some of the actions that Trump may have been talked out of given his public unscripted comments and erratic, emotional behaviour.
How is there always, always an appropriate tweet???
As I say I do take your point but what do you think he's been talked out of and by who ? Trump has been a stream of consciousness since he was elected and much of it little more than racist bile . When he's on script yeah he sticks to the pillars of what he was elected but once he's his own man it's many good people , Puerto Rican's are too lazy to help themselves, someone should fire those people for disrespecting our flag and the police should rough up suspects and that's before we get onto foreign policy .
Trump is still vowing to build a wall , has pushed his Muslim ban time and time through the courts . repeatedly tried and failed to repeal the ACA and is now suggesting a tax reform that'll save him personally an absolute fortune . To me The only things that seem to be stopping trump are his inability to get things done and those that oppose him .
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Indeed.
ChicagoToffee
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What's more pathetic - the ad or that the guy who was running Carls Jr. was nominated to be Secretary of Labor?
He came off like a total psychopath in Puerto Rico. Probably went back to his hotel room after he was done insulting the Puerto Ricans and tossing out paper towels like it was a rock concert and butchered a couple of prostitutes.
I am pretty confident that left to his own devices he would have fired Sessions and Rosenstein in an effort to find someone who would sack Mueller in a repeat of the Nixonian Saturday night massacre.
I also think it likely he was talked out of defying the courts in their initial ruling on the muslim ban, so not even attempting to rewrite it and push it through the courts but just going ahead with the first one anyway, causing a constitutional crisis.
On the foreign policy front he certainly gave strong hints about rejecting article 5 of the Nato treaty and I don't think his so called "madman strategy" re North Korea is all an act.
I may be misreading things, and I doubt we'll have proof one way or the other until he is out of power, but his public statements are enough to have me very worried about the ideas he proposes behind closed doors.
Comments like this from retiring Republican senators aren't very reassuring, particularly when it was the same senator that said "The President has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful,"
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...te-us-from-chaos-senator-corker-says-j8d7zcnv
Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker defended Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, saying he and other top Trump officials “help separate us from chaos.” "I think there are multiple people up there trying to be secretary of state and I’m just thankful that he’s still there," Corker said.
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Honestly, LL, check this reddit sub out. It specializes in just that!! It is chock full!!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/
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Not getting much coverage compared to his Twitter feed, but the Supreme Court hearings just now are very important.
The ability of the United States to meaningfully express itself on Trump or to avoid de facto one party rule will likely hinge on the misfiring and unpredictable elderly synapses of Anthony Kennedy, similar to how the fortuitous lodging of an errant fatberg of abdominal gristle in Scalia's beleaguered grease-choked veins gave labour unions in America a fleeting stay of execution.
At issue is partisan gerrymandering in Wisconsin, where in 2012 the Democrats won a majority of votes for the legislature, but thanks to redistricting, the Republicans won two-thirds of the seats.
Yes, that's correct. The Democrats won a majority of the popular vote, but Republicans skewed the districts such that they took two-thirds of the seats.
Almost 50% of the districts are so lopsided that the opposition literally didn't bother.
And Wisconsin is hardly the only state that operates this way. It is even worse in Michigan: 51% of the vote for Democrats, 71% of the seats for the Republicans.
"A group of experts that rates the integrity of elections around the world say North Carolina can’t really be considered a democracy anymore. The state where the outgoing governor signed a law stripping his successor of certain powers scored 58/100 in the 2016 election, according to the Electoral Integrity Project, a joint effort between Harvard University and the University of Sydney. That places the state alongside the likes of Cuba, Indonesia and Sierra Leone.
“If it were a nation state, North Carolina would rank right in the middle of the global league table—a deeply flawed, partly-free, democracy that is only slightly ahead of the failed democracies that constitute much of the developing world,” writes Andrew Reynolds, an associate professor at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, who is also an EIP adviser."
And of course, in the rare states where Democrats can do this, they do - Maryland, for example. It is wrong, and contemptible, in all cases.
It would be nice if, given how polarized the country is, we could at least agree to stage fair elections. But one party can no longer win fair elections, nor is it willing to change in order to do so, so we are left with what is effectively a slow motion coup d'etat (And of course, similar Republican machinations in appointing the Supreme Court are the only reason why this is even still in question). Do any conservatives care that the basic propriety of politics in the United States is being demonstrably attacked? Lol. One intrepid forumer here proclaimed his support, for President, of the architect of the debacle in Wisconsin, because of his "integrity." So "no," is the rhetorical answer.
There is some hope about Kennedy, who rejected an attempt by Republican Lawmakers in Arizona to sue (!) after voters decided to form an impartial committee to set the districts, like in a civilised country.
Yes, the Republicans in the Arizona assembly actually attempted to in effect sue their own constituents in order to preserve their ability to draw their own electoral districts.
Anyhow, I think this could well have far more damaging consequences than the latest breech of twitter etiquette.
The ability of the United States to meaningfully express itself on Trump or to avoid de facto one party rule will likely hinge on the misfiring and unpredictable elderly synapses of Anthony Kennedy, similar to how the fortuitous lodging of an errant fatberg of abdominal gristle in Scalia's beleaguered grease-choked veins gave labour unions in America a fleeting stay of execution.
At issue is partisan gerrymandering in Wisconsin, where in 2012 the Democrats won a majority of votes for the legislature, but thanks to redistricting, the Republicans won two-thirds of the seats.
Yes, that's correct. The Democrats won a majority of the popular vote, but Republicans skewed the districts such that they took two-thirds of the seats.
Almost 50% of the districts are so lopsided that the opposition literally didn't bother.
And Wisconsin is hardly the only state that operates this way. It is even worse in Michigan: 51% of the vote for Democrats, 71% of the seats for the Republicans.
"A group of experts that rates the integrity of elections around the world say North Carolina can’t really be considered a democracy anymore. The state where the outgoing governor signed a law stripping his successor of certain powers scored 58/100 in the 2016 election, according to the Electoral Integrity Project, a joint effort between Harvard University and the University of Sydney. That places the state alongside the likes of Cuba, Indonesia and Sierra Leone.
“If it were a nation state, North Carolina would rank right in the middle of the global league table—a deeply flawed, partly-free, democracy that is only slightly ahead of the failed democracies that constitute much of the developing world,” writes Andrew Reynolds, an associate professor at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, who is also an EIP adviser."
And of course, in the rare states where Democrats can do this, they do - Maryland, for example. It is wrong, and contemptible, in all cases.
It would be nice if, given how polarized the country is, we could at least agree to stage fair elections. But one party can no longer win fair elections, nor is it willing to change in order to do so, so we are left with what is effectively a slow motion coup d'etat (And of course, similar Republican machinations in appointing the Supreme Court are the only reason why this is even still in question). Do any conservatives care that the basic propriety of politics in the United States is being demonstrably attacked? Lol. One intrepid forumer here proclaimed his support, for President, of the architect of the debacle in Wisconsin, because of his "integrity." So "no," is the rhetorical answer.
There is some hope about Kennedy, who rejected an attempt by Republican Lawmakers in Arizona to sue (!) after voters decided to form an impartial committee to set the districts, like in a civilised country.
Yes, the Republicans in the Arizona assembly actually attempted to in effect sue their own constituents in order to preserve their ability to draw their own electoral districts.
Anyhow, I think this could well have far more damaging consequences than the latest breech of twitter etiquette.
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