Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon
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peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
So he's crap then.....
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
So when the Dallas Cowboys all knelt and then all stood for the Anthem, what did that mean. What happens now, do those who want to protest, stand then kneel, at what point does someone say 'what was this all about again', one month, one year, one hundred years........the point has been made......or does it all change if a Democrat wins.....
Not a fan myself, but some like him and i guess the point most make is that he is better than some of the other starters on other teams right now.
Kaeperknick has said he wants to play and not be a backup, so that's also deterring teams from signing him i believe.
It's not that he hasn't had tryouts with other teams either so...
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
So it's not political then ?......
The cowboys thing was all Jerry Jones the owner. He is a staunch Republican and quite frankly a wealthy Texan.
Him making them kneel was purely to show everyone "look we also care" but in reality he doesn't agree with the protest and has said so multiple times.
It would have looked ridiculous if he refused to let his team do something.
I am not in the minds of the head coaches or owners. In my opinion... I don't think its that straightforward to be categorized as being political or not...
For me it's down to pros and cons.
Pros - his experience, his talent, so on so forth etc....
Con - Expects to start, would cost a lot of money to be a backup, and caused trouble or could possibly cause trouble.
In San Francisco apparently he wasn't that popular in the dressing room with a lot of guys.
I personally don't agree with those saying he should be on a team just because... Both the Seahawks and Chargers tried him out and the Jets discussed with him a position and they all said no.. I do not believe the owners are blacklisting him. The players union (NFLPA) if true would have come out and said something by now.
I also don't agree with the right lambasting him or anyone else for their right to hold free speech or expression. They were ok with Nazis marching in streets but not with football players being upset with things.
But i can see the point of view that teams would take a hard look at a guy who may not be worth the hassle or press. Remember its about image too for these teams.
He has talent no doubt but i don't think he's as good as people make out and like i said head coaches and GM's will undoubtedly consider there options.
No pete, it is political. He's not getting a game because he's a pain in the arse for any NFL owner due to his protests. (In my opinion of course)
Looking at Houston's rookie QB at the weekend, it might be a while before he gets a game again.
See this is where we may disagree. If he was of the caliber of Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees etc... they may have look past the protest thing. Especially now other players around the league have adopted the same protest.
Also there had been many reports on his conduct with team mates beyond the protest thing.
We'll both have to see what happens, my crystal ball isn't working.
And did you not listen when people told you this all started over a year ago when Obama was president, why would who is in the White House be the determining factor on what happens with the protests since it isn't the raison d'etre for them?
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if McCain wanting it waived would make Trump determined that he was going to keep it.
DanEFC92
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joey_macmo
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There are lots of reasons but his passer rating certainly isn't one of them, have you looked at the calibre of QB's around the league.
abelard
Player Valuation: £35m
I actually appreciate the honesty! It would have been nice, for example, had Holder and Obama had likewise admitted that they'd decided a priori not to charge anyone over the real estate crisis because the financiers who'd lavished them with unprecedented patronage would have had their feelings hurt.
Anyhow...
The football thing is serious, I guess, in so far as it's the latest stupid manifestation of America's political sickness. And even though it's patently ridiculous, Americans seem to really care.
But from the outside looking in, it's also quite hilarious. It's truly surreal to witness in real time how childish so, so many fully-grown Americans actually are. The way they talk about the flag and The Troops is like how a six year-old reacts if you tell them that Santa isn't real, their imaginary friends don't exist, and their stuffed toys don't actually possess magical powers. The flag has become America's special blankie.
Look at this particularly creative, if pathetic (as in "pathos") specimen (from the National Review comments, my increasingly guilty pleasure) redefining "freedom of speech" as "freedom FROM speech!":
This is all of course immensely frustrating for conservatives because although they control all three branches of government and are two state houses away from rewriting the constitution, they are utterly powerless to forestall the hemorrhaging of the unearned primacy and valour of prosperous, poorly-educated suburban middle-aged white men. They haven't yet found a way to bribe or gerrymander culture like they have with electoral districts.
To be sure, if the United States was a meaningful democracy, by international standards, the Republicans would lose at politics too, at least in their current form. But in the realm of cheating, their skill, and sheer balls, remain unmatched.
True, even with an unprecedented partisan monopoly on the levers of power, they still can't even match Obama on health care, who unlike Trump had a hostile court to contend with. This is because their economic agenda, as opposed to their cultural virtue-signalling, is reviled by the overwhelming majority of the American population.
But that is NOT to say that the Republicans under Trump have been a failure - just that they can only enact change in secrecy, by relying even more heavily on bureaucratic machinations, and the Executive Orders which their prior recalcitrance compelled upon Obama, probably the most, and last, bipartisan President we're ever likely to witness. Watching mainstream Republicans, who spent 8 years cry-arseing Obama's "dictatorial" overreach, now joygasming when DONALD TRUMP transcends even Barack Hussein's record, only reiterates that Republicans have only emotions, not principles.
This too would be hilarious, if what they doing with their similarly "dictatorial" executive orders wasn't so cruel and destructive.
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