Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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I'm not really up to speed with US law especially to do with intelligence committee etc . What's the deal if Flynn refuses to accept the subpoena, What will be the legal implications ?

Thanks in advance

Will have to defer that, but I don't think it's good.

Think he can be arrested for contempt but as I say, will defer.
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-contacts-idUSKCN18E106

Exclusive: Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians: sources

Michael Flynn and other advisers to Donald Trump’s campaign were in contact with Russian officials and others with Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls and emails during the last seven months of the 2016 presidential race, current and former U.S. officials familiar with the exchanges told Reuters.

The previously undisclosed interactions form part of the record now being reviewed by FBI and congressional investigators probing Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election and contacts between Trump’s campaign and Russia.

Six of the previously undisclosed contacts described to Reuters were phone calls between Sergei Kislyak, Russia's ambassador to the United States, and Trump advisers, including Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, three current and former officials said.

Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.
 
Enjoy the day!

meanwhile:

Since the summer before the election, Trump’s critics have been suggesting or sometimes stating outright that Russia is involved with a criminal conspiracy that reaches to the highest levels of Trump’s inner circle. But now that an unimpeachable bulldog prosecutor has been named to probe these very allegations, the critics seem to be trying to move the goalposts, saying that the real problem isn’t criminality, but the sleaze and outlandish behavior of the Trump campaign more generally—behavior that was already obvious to voters when they went to the polls in 2016, and will be even more obvious when they go to the polls in 2018.

Trump’s outrageous and indefensible conduct around the Russia investigation—his firing of Comey to attempt to quash the inquiry, along with the subsequent allegations that he demanded Comey’s loyalty early on and leaned on him to drop the investigation of Mike Flynn—cries out for a special counsel, and Mueller, by all accounts, is a consummate choice. Any wrongdoing related to the Trump campaign, from the President himself to bottom-feeders like Carter Page, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

But the Trump-Russia hounds now seem to be realizing the limits of the scandal they have been pursuing—yes, maybe someone like Manafort will go down for money-laundering, and yes, Trump had shady deals with Russian banks as a real estate tycoon in the 1990s. But this is simply not as big of a scandal as they would like it to be.

https://www.the-american-interest.c...-trump-critics-worry-maybe-theres-no-scandal/
 
Enjoy the day!

meanwhile:

Since the summer before the election, Trump’s critics have been suggesting or sometimes stating outright that Russia is involved with a criminal conspiracy that reaches to the highest levels of Trump’s inner circle. But now that an unimpeachable bulldog prosecutor has been named to probe these very allegations, the critics seem to be trying to move the goalposts, saying that the real problem isn’t criminality, but the sleaze and outlandish behavior of the Trump campaign more generally—behavior that was already obvious to voters when they went to the polls in 2016, and will be even more obvious when they go to the polls in 2018.

Trump’s outrageous and indefensible conduct around the Russia investigation—his firing of Comey to attempt to quash the inquiry, along with the subsequent allegations that he demanded Comey’s loyalty early on and leaned on him to drop the investigation of Mike Flynn—cries out for a special counsel, and Mueller, by all accounts, is a consummate choice. Any wrongdoing related to the Trump campaign, from the President himself to bottom-feeders like Carter Page, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

But the Trump-Russia hounds now seem to be realizing the limits of the scandal they have been pursuing—yes, maybe someone like Manafort will go down for money-laundering, and yes, Trump had shady deals with Russian banks as a real estate tycoon in the 1990s. But this is simply not as big of a scandal as they would like it to be.

https://www.the-american-interest.c...-trump-critics-worry-maybe-theres-no-scandal/


The fact there is so much smoke is what makes the scandal. A special prosecutor will end the scandal by confirming the was nothing or there was/is something, even if it the people around Trump and not Trump himself.

I would like the truth...and yes, I can handle it.
 
Enjoy the day!

meanwhile:

Since the summer before the election, Trump’s critics have been suggesting or sometimes stating outright that Russia is involved with a criminal conspiracy that reaches to the highest levels of Trump’s inner circle. But now that an unimpeachable bulldog prosecutor has been named to probe these very allegations, the critics seem to be trying to move the goalposts, saying that the real problem isn’t criminality, but the sleaze and outlandish behavior of the Trump campaign more generally—behavior that was already obvious to voters when they went to the polls in 2016, and will be even more obvious when they go to the polls in 2018.

Trump’s outrageous and indefensible conduct around the Russia investigation—his firing of Comey to attempt to quash the inquiry, along with the subsequent allegations that he demanded Comey’s loyalty early on and leaned on him to drop the investigation of Mike Flynn—cries out for a special counsel, and Mueller, by all accounts, is a consummate choice. Any wrongdoing related to the Trump campaign, from the President himself to bottom-feeders like Carter Page, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

But the Trump-Russia hounds now seem to be realizing the limits of the scandal they have been pursuing—yes, maybe someone like Manafort will go down for money-laundering, and yes, Trump had shady deals with Russian banks as a real estate tycoon in the 1990s. But this is simply not as big of a scandal as they would like it to be.

https://www.the-american-interest.c...-trump-critics-worry-maybe-theres-no-scandal/
I've frequently stated that I doubt there is collusion, if had to guess would agree that money-laundering would be a far more likely ending.

But just because it isn't as big as collusion doesn't mean it doesn't have a large impact. Bill Clinton's shady past was pretty well known to voters prior to his election but it continued to dog his presidency, indeed wasn't it the investigation of the Whitewater scandal that eventually lead to his impeachment over Lewinsky?
 
The fact there is so much smoke is what makes the scandal. A special prosecutor will end the scandal by confirming the was nothing or there was/is something, even if it the people around Trump and not Trump himself.

I would like the truth...and yes, I can handle it.
I've frequently stated that I doubt there is collusion, if had to guess would agree that money-laundering would be a far more likely ending.

But just because it isn't as big as collusion doesn't mean it doesn't have a large impact. Bill Clinton's shady past was pretty well known to voters prior to his election but it continued to dog his presidency, indeed wasn't it the investigation of the Whitewater scandal that eventually lead to his impeachment over Lewinsky?

Valid points all. We need to know the truth, and we need to distinguish truth from rumor and innuendo. Trump is a wild card, and this looks like a very effective strategy to postpone or slow walk anything Trump or the GOP wants done until the 2018 elections. You may even get Fox News to pitch in and help this time.

Please consider that the volume and heat of the establishment attack unites Trump supporters on the ground behind him, due to their suspicion of everything they hear from anybody not explicitly pro-Trump in nature. By 2018, he'll have been President for two years and those who aren't after his head will be that much more comfortable with him in the office. I expect that the effort to find the means for impeachment will continue pretty much nonstop until then, at least.

It's not 1973. Not yet. Something about chickens and hatching.
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...can-democracy-25th-amendment-removal-bad-idea

Excerpt...the bolded bit got an actual LOL

Republicans are beginning to panic. One sign is the notion now circulating that, perhaps to fend off ultimate impeachment, Trump be dumped by way of the 25th Amendment. That’s the post-Kennedy assassination measure that provides for removing an incapacitated president on the decision of the vice president and a majority of the cabinet. This is the worst idea since Leno at 10 p.m. It perverts the very intent of the amendment. It was meant for a stroke, not stupidity; for Alzheimer’s, not narcissism. Otherwise, what it authorizes is a coup — willful overthrow by the leader’s own closest associates.



For those that don't know... the National Review is conservative, but not right-wing crazy
 
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