Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Harryflashman]

Hmmm...Presidents who may tell falsehoods.....nope, I've never heard of Nixon or Clinton.......apparently.....

Politicians lie I mean that's a given obviously however We've never had a president lie like this bloke ever , he lies like taking breath . Look at the politico, during the campaign 70% of his statements checked were lies that's surely incredible.

Regardless of that surely we should hold them all to a greater standard , call them all on their lies . I'm Good with that , its like saying "x , y and z have had state visits so why not trump " , the reality is we should strive for better not the lowest common denominator.

 

[peteblue]

It still doesn't make it right. I am not condoning the actions of previous presidents, as we all had it out with them when they were sitting (as in, the press, the people took them to task). This is about the current president.

And even more in todays world where we are more connected than ever, the President complains about fake news, while he is actually the source of the fake news.

It doesn't make it right. However there is a difference between getting things wrong, which Trump is doing on a daily basis by regurgitating supposed news, and deliberately telling an outright lie. He is an embarrassment to the USA in some ways, but there is no denying that he has also shaken up many of the cosy political elite, especially in the EU and NATO where to be fair, in pointing out the lack of contribution from the likes of Germany, he's got it spot on......

 

[Harryflashman]

It doesn't make it right. However there is a difference between getting things wrong, which Trump is doing on a daily basis by regurgitating supposed news, and deliberately telling an outright lie. He is an embarrassment to the USA in some ways, but there is no denying that he has also shaken up many of the cosy political elite, especially in the EU and NATO where to be fair, in pointing out the lack of contribution from the likes of Germany, he's got it spot on......

You don't think he tells outright lies ? Only the other day he mentioned the murder rate being the highest ever and that's without mentioning his electoral college rubbish , he lies like taking breath.

It can't all be on error surely ? If you're briefed that badly you need to be getting rid of staff at an even faster rate than he already is .

 

[peteblue]

Politicians lie I mean that's a given obviously however We've never had a president lie like this bloke ever , he lies like taking breath . Look at the politico, during the campaign 70% of his statements checked were lies that's surely incredible.

Regardless of that surely we should hold them all to a greater standard , call them all on their lies . I'm Good with that , its like saying "x , y and z have had state visits so why not trump " , the reality is we should strive for better not the lowest common denominator.

I totally agree. On the state visit thing though I would welcome him with open arms. Not because he's 'earned it', which is a really daft proposition, but because he is the head of state of our biggest and closest ally. State visits are to help and promote friendship and trade, both of which the UK will be needing in the years to come......

 

[Harryflashman]

It doesn't make it right. However there is a difference between getting things wrong, which Trump is doing on a daily basis by regurgitating supposed news, and deliberately telling an outright lie. He is an embarrassment to the USA in some ways, but there is no denying that he has also shaken up many of the cosy political elite, especially in the EU and NATO where to be fair, in pointing out the lack of contribution from the likes of Germany, he's got it spot on......

He shakes things up just like le pen or wilders would shake things up , doesn't make them Desirable or less despicable. Fox described wilders as "what some are calling the Dutch trump" the other day , I know because I heard it .

 

[peteblue]

You don't think he tells outright lies ? Only the other day he mentioned the murder rate being the highest ever and that's without mentioning his electoral college rubbish , he lies like taking breath.

It can't all be on error surely ? If you're briefed that badly you need to be getting rid of staff at an even faster rate than he already is .

I can't keep up with all he says, but if he's telling lies then he will hopefully be hounded out of office as each lie is exposed. I assume someone is making a list........

 

[peteblue]

He shakes things up just like le pen or wilders would shake things up , doesn't make them Desirable or less despicable. Fox described wilders as "what some are calling the Dutch trump" the other day , I know because I heard it .

I wouldn't paint him as a Wilders. Nor would I paint him as a Hitler or Pope John. He is what he is, an overbearing egocentric businessman with no political skills whatsoever, and that's who the USA voted for......

 

[Harryflashman]

I wouldn't paint him as a Wilders. Nor would I paint him as a Hitler or Pope John. He is what he is, an overbearing egocentric businessman with no political skills whatsoever, and that's who the USA voted for......

I wouldn't either necessarily, yet , but it's certainly what Fox said .

 

[Ruairi77]

I wouldn't paint him as a Wilders. Nor would I paint him as a Hitler or Pope John. He is what he is, an overbearing egocentric businessman with no political skills whatsoever, and that's who the USA voted for......

The USA voted for Clinton

 

[peteblue]

I see the EU really know how to make Americans welcome....who's flag is this btw....with 51 stars......

 

[canuckblue]

I see the EU really know how to make Americans welcome....who's flag is this btw....with 51 stars......

Ah, damn, have we been invaded already?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I see the EU really know how to make Americans welcome....who's flag is this btw....with 51 stars......

Pete, you've defended multiple times a man who I don't think has made any foreign minister feel welcome in his short time in office. He has a higher gaffe rate than Prince Phillip!

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

6 days of golf in his first 32 days in the White House.

What a grafter

 

[Bruce Wayne]

6 days of golf in his first 32 days in the White House.

What a grafter

Probably helps that he's decamped the White House to one of his courses.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

6 days of golf in his first 32 days in the White House.

What a grafter

Koeman would be proud of this.