Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[McBain]

Local Finnish sculptor rushes to finish sculpture for Trumps inaugaration..

*bbc world news

 

[peteblue]

Has this fella gone yet....

 

[dandydan]

Bang bang she shot you down, bang bang CNN hit the ground.

 

[peteblue]

Bang bang she shot you down, bang bang CNN hit the ground.
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Hahaha.....

 

[dandydan]

Hahaha.....

She is very anti trump too but called out CNN on their fake news.

 

[Blue 1]

 

[ilikecheese]

First some personal background.

Having spent lots of effort at one point playing the game to get money out of the local arts council for our own 401c3 org, my impression is that it will affect arts administrators a lot more than the actual artists. We found that we provide so much actual music to the community for so little cash (the players, conductors, everyone are volunteers) and we always play for free (though we accept donations) that it was a labor sink to do all the paperwork for grants when our overall outlay didn't really warrant the effort.

We didn't process enough money for it to pay for us because we don't have actual paid employees and the associated expenses. If we did, it would be different. The money we were all chasing basically went to pay for the office staff and admins to process the required paperwork and regulatory information, as well as marketing and administering their organizations. Not that the money from the NEA doesn't do some good work, but there is so much additional overhead by the time everything gets processed through the government that it would be better spent by the folks that consume the art directly on the arts.

That said, though...

I think it's a political mistake by Trump and his advisors, but we'll see what happens. The fact that the NEA has been used as a club in the culture wars for the past forty years in the US is why this is happening. The GOP lost that war long ago, and needs to move on.

Here's an example of the art you can get out of volunteers for nothing. The soloist got paid, but nobody else did. The folks with the hall sponsored us gratis to bring good music to a suburban area with a nice concert hall but not much traffic (building future audience) or much to present to the public yet. We got a couple thousand folks, mainly school kids and their parents who never had gone to a formal concert before. We partnered with the local school music programs to recruit an audience of their students and made admission to the concert free. You can do a lot without directly involving govt or some agency.

Perhaps it's shear ignorance on my part but I thought the NEA helped fund arts programs in public schools. Especially those in rural areas and inner cities.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Why are you bothered by our right to assemble and demonstrate?

Were you bothered when Tea Party folks did so in 2009?

Do it properly and it's ok.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Any odds when he'll get shot ?
Not around the church surely
I'd guess 5-6 pm Wahington time
Peak viewing and all that

 

[mezzrow]

Perhaps it's shear ignorance on my part but I thought the NEA helped fund arts programs in public schools. Especially those in rural areas and inner cities.

Ummm, not in the main. They are happy that you think that's what they do, though. I'll have to see if I can "follow the money" and see what the NEA is actually doing with their grant money, and where the bulk of funds are going, which is a different issue.

The agency had been used as a political football to make political decisions about art, which is rarely a good idea whether Stalin is making those decisions from his opera box or while a committee of arts admins process a stack of grant requests. The abuse has come from both right and left, depending on who has been in charge.

This is a good time to remind everyone that Trump had to defeat two political parties to get elected. He co-opted the GOP by defeating its establishment and wearing the party like a skin suit in the general election, and then defeated the post-Obama Democrats and their effort to give Hillary what she'd always felt she had coming. You can't win using Obama's party and philosophy without Obama himself. I think we've settled that, if little else. Trump is there to break up business as usual, and this is a shot across the bow.

The only political art that isn't propaganda is... Well, I can't really think of any, can you?

Don't we already have enough propaganda in the world?

 

[ilikecheese]

Do it properly and it's ok.

Please explain.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[Moomin]

 

[Ruairi77]

This is a good time to remind everyone that Trump had to defeat two political parties to get elected. He co-opted the GOP by defeating its establishment and wearing the party like a skin suit in the general election, and then defeated the post-Obama Democrats and their effort to give Hillary what she'd always felt she had coming.

It's the way he went about doing this that scares me.
So far, it's a legacy built on fear and lies.
I mean, christ, you seem like a really smart fella, how can you be alright with this?

 

[TheGhostOfBolasie]

Hope he doesn't get shot!