Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Noisy noise annoys]

Trump was pretty much actively helping Putin by withholding aid to Ukraine when they wouldn’t try to dig up dirt on Biden’s son for him. That’s what the entire first impeachment was about.

Didn’t he also try to blackmail a Ukrainian head of state? Edit, this is the same time I think
Honestly. @Zatara is at kev the rat levels of delusion here

 

[SteveSC]

So if your metric is jobs and the stock market, the S&P is way up under Biden and the jobs rate is better too. More jobs created under Biden than the whole of Trump, even pre pandemic.

The US economy has also enjoyed its biggest gains in 50 years - if you’re only listening to right sided rhetoric then you are uninformed my good man.

Obvious indeed.

It's obvious but has yet too provide any evidence of it haha!

The usual go look for breadcrumbs yourself because I have nothing defense.

 

[Prevenger17]

Donald Trump was the worst US president ever and it's not even close. Absolute bozo who will go down as one of the great "wtf were they thinking?" moments in history

 

[Mr K.Dilkington]

Why does someone who lives in Asia care so much about an American President?

 

[SteveSC]

Why does someone who lives in Asia care so much about an American President?

He met his sons you see haha! Must have paid an arm and a leg to goto that event. Those silver spooned fools don't do free events.

 

[Amw79]

Well, no Im not a "Trump supporter".

For one, I'm not American. Secondly, I didnt particularly enjoy meeting his two sons, thirdly I dont really have much interest in him...apart from him being good value for a quote or a laugh.

What does strike me as amusing though is this 'narrative' that because I comment at certain times on factual evidence regarding Trump those with a partisan view seem to dream up such things.

It really is peculiar and weird. I certainly would never...as in NEVER vote for such a person as Biden -- nor would i want to do business or socialise with such a person.

Trump however comes across as someone who is a bull in a china shop but (up until the pandemic) he certainly didnt have any issues bar the personal vendetta against him evidenced not only in this thread title but also the thread itself).

All I see is Trump bashing but theres no Biden accountability either is there...




You seem extremely invested in an anti Trump narrative.

Have you met or done business with him?

These posts arent balanced.




No. I've said "I'm not a fan"...i couldnt care less about Trump.

Why on earth you do is your own business.

Have a kitkat



What a peculiar post...I'm dreadful on transfers but incredible on everything else




Of course I back Israel in certain matters.

Love the food



You think the economy has suddenly improved in the time Biden has been President?

Lets have this conversation again once his policies have a little more time to take hold.

Personally i know a few guys who are betting on a 30% drop on the US markets this year.

If you look at the Nasdaq 1 yr chart and then the 5 year chart it certainly looks like something isnt far off on the technicals.

I mean, this is a weird post. It rants about ‘narrative’ and who you ‘wouldn’t ever vote for’, but let’s try to focus it a bit.

What policies did Trump enact that demonstrate to you that he was a good president? I.e. something like the bipartisan infrastructure bill that Biden got through.

Or, what metric are you measuring Donald by, if it’s not policy achievements?

 

[BlueTX]

I mean, this is a weird post. It rants about ‘narrative’ and who you ‘wouldn’t ever vote for’, but let’s try to focus it a bit.

What policies did Trump enact that demonstrate to you that he was a good president? I.e. something like the bipartisan infrastructure bill that Biden got through.

Or, what metric are you measuring Donald by, if it’s not policy achievements?

It's not a weird post, it's completely absurd and indefensible.

I mean the sheer ignorance of claiming one would never socialize with the likes of Joe Biden and Donald Trump didn't have any issues about him except personal vendettas.

Sake. Mind-blowingly stupid.

One guy went home every night from Washington DC to Delaware to mind his sons who lost their mother and sister in a car crash. The other guy hung out with Jeffrey Epstein (and that is but a mild flaw of his).

 

[McBain]

It's obvious but has yet too provide any evidence of it haha!

The usual go look for breadcrumbs yourself because I have nothing defense.

They always complain to be attacked personally when its the only reason they wont support any ideas from the left. Like preaching religeon while carrying guns.

Im glad to see the office return to normal, and hopefully the loony right will eat themselves as per their level of intelligence and empathy.

 

[SteveSC]

They always complain to be attacked personally when its the only reason they wont support any ideas from the left. Like preaching religeon while carrying guns.

Im glad to see the office return to normal, and hopefully the loony right will eat themselves as per their level of intelligence and empathy.

Yep they call the left snowflakes yet they get upset about just about everything especially being challenged on their views. They think their freedom of speech is carte blanche to say what they want without rebuttal or recourse.

 

[Zatara]

He agreed the Afghan withdrawal and let putin do what he wanted for 4 years. You know this is fact but pretend otherwise cos it totally blows your waffle apart

Thats your actual belief on why Biden withdrew the troops leaving supplies, weapons and vehicles behind...

...in the dead of night.

It was massively publicised that the allies werent made aware the Americans would drop everything and flee.

The whole world knew when the withdrawal was, it was announced well in advance

As for Putin, your man Trump sat back and watched him flatten Syria, Biden has done more to punish Putin in one week than Trump did in 4 years.

Your lies are pathetic

So you're saying US informed their allies prior to fleeing in the dead of night?

Well, that indeed is a lie.

Youre now comparing Syria with Ukraine?

lol what a stretch.

Why does someone who lives in Asia care so much about an American President?

I dont. I posted a few times in the Ukraine thread about how Biden was less than useless and how Trump didnt have this scale of a problem on his watch + i think he would have handled this better.

Not really a big deal...

Then suddenly being tagged in by some posters trying to tell me this is all Trumps fault.

I mean, this is a weird post. It rants about ‘narrative’ and who you ‘wouldn’t ever vote for’, but let’s try to focus it a bit.

What policies did Trump enact that demonstrate to you that he was a good president? I.e. something like the bipartisan infrastructure bill that Biden got through.

Or, what metric are you measuring Donald by, if it’s not policy achievements?

Now youve gone down a whole different path.

I made two singular unrelated points.

1: Based on how weak/stupid/cowardly/awake Biden looks I think Trump would have done a better job with Afganistan and Ukraine.

Thats not saying Trump is great. Thats saying Biden is useless...i.e literally has no use. He's a sock puppet.


2: I believe the US markets are soon to drop chunky double digits. That again wouldnt happen with Trump imo...again, not to say Trump is great. Biden probably struggles counting his fingers.


Beyond those two opinions which posters are crying over because someone told them to not form their own opinions...i couldnt care less.

 

[McBain]

Beyond those two opinions which posters are crying over because someone told them to not form their own opinions...i couldnt care less.

Its really not that at all Z.

If you think spouting an opinion with no backbone to it and being called out is an attack on you is a bit rich.

You’ve been here long enough to know that without evidence you need some form of reason based argument. Calling Biden a big stupid doo doo head when he’s doing well makes you look like you don’t know what you’re talking about.

 

[SteveSC]

Thats your actual belief on why Biden withdrew the troops leaving supplies, weapons and vehicles behind...

...in the dead of night.

It was massively publicised that the allies werent made aware the Americans would drop everything and flee.



So you're saying US informed their allies prior to fleeing in the dead of night?

Well, that indeed is a lie.

Youre now comparing Syria with Ukraine?

lol what a stretch.



I dont. I posted a few times in the Ukraine thread about how Biden was less than useless and how Trump didnt have this scale of a problem on his watch + i think he would have handled this better.

Not really a big deal...

Then suddenly being tagged in by some posters trying to tell me this is all Trumps fault.




Now youve gone down a whole different path.

I made two singular unrelated points.

1: Based on how weak/stupid/cowardly/awake Biden looks I think Trump would have done a better job with Afganistan and Ukraine.

Thats not saying Trump is great. Thats saying Biden is useless...i.e literally has no use. He's a sock puppet.


2: I believe the US markets are soon to drop chunky double digits. That again wouldnt happen with Trump imo...again, not to say Trump is great. Biden probably struggles counting his fingers.


Beyond those two opinions which posters are crying over because someone told them to not form their own opinions...i couldnt care less.

Out of your depth and wrong as always.

Stick to lineups and salivating over young lads you think will make it.

Putting people on ignore just to avoid rebuttal and opinion is a chicken move. Especially when all you ever offer is your opinion which you state is fact.

When you do produce evidence it's lobsided right leaning conspiracy nonsense.

 

[Zatara]

Its really not that at all Z.

If you think spouting an opinion with no backbone to it and being called out is an attack on you is a bit rich.

You’ve been here long enough to know that without evidence you need some form of reason based argument. Calling Biden a big stupid doo doo head when he’s doing well makes you look like you don’t know what you’re talking about.

All of those items bolded amuse me.

1: "Spouting an opinion"; no, I posted an opinion of what I believe to be fact. By your reference, everyone is "spouting" opinions rather than 'offering' an alternative opinion to others.

If that is frowned upon then it says more about you than me.


2: "Called out"; I dont see any calling out...I just see personal attacks on Trump, stupid ignorant comments and posts directed at me (like this one).

There is no rhyme or reason provided.


3: "Attacks on me"; Thats a bit like saying there "werent attacks on Trump". Theres an agenda at play here and when presented with an alternate (factual based view) its personal comments.

It just makes such posters look ignorant and intolerant to others views.


4: "You need some form of reason based argument"; Yes ive provided this too many times now. Its not been countered whatsoever.

It cant be disproven, its a fact. I see you havent even attempted to disagree...neither have others put a logical discussion point back my way.


5: "When hes doing well"; Biden doing well?

This and other posts are what Id expect to see from a Chinese or Russian 'party' member.

Youre joking right? lol you have to be kidding...thats not rational.


Once again, show me where:

A: Trump instructed his troops to flee a country in the dead of night without informing their allies and leaving behind weapons, vehicles and supplies.

Not to mention an absolute humanitarian mess they left behind with the locals on their payroll and innocent people who they betrayed.

B: Had one of the 'brand name' countries of Iran, China, North Korea or Russia (ive even added two more countries here) invade a country at the gravity and scale of Ukraine. Then forget the countries name, refuse to speak to the aggressor after inferring that a "small incursion wouldnt be punished"


There is no possible way to disprove my two consistent narratives above.

All posts so far commenting on them smacks or something akin to brainwashing...or mere ignorance or intolerance because of a personal bias.

But im open to reading something logical.

 

[BlueTX]

Once again, show me where:

A: Trump instructed his troops to flee a country in the dead of night without informing their allies and leaving behind weapons, vehicles and supplies.

Not to mention an absolute humanitarian mess they left behind with the locals on their payroll and innocent people who they betrayed.

B: Had one of the 'brand name' countries of Iran, China, North Korea or Russia (ive even added two more countries here) invade a country at the gravity and scale of Ukraine. Then forget the countries name, refuse to speak to the aggressor after inferring that a "small incursion wouldnt be punished"


There is no possible way to disprove my two consistent narratives above.

All posts so far commenting on them smacks or something akin to brainwashing...or mere ignorance or intolerance because of a personal bias.

But im open to reading something logical.

A. Syria 2019, you bad meff.

B. That you blame Biden for Putin's actions in Ukraine is utterly asinine.

It's not brainwashing, ignorance or intolerance to be dismissive of an amoral clownshow of a "businessman" who asked about nuking a hurricane to stop it hitting Florida.

 

[SteveSC]

All of those items bolded amuse me.

1: "Spouting an opinion"; no, I posted an opinion of what I believe to be fact. By your reference, everyone is "spouting" opinions rather than 'offering' an alternative opinion to others.

If that is frowned upon then it says more about you than me.


2: "Called out"; I dont see any calling out...I just see personal attacks on Trump, stupid ignorant comments and posts directed at me (like this one).

There is no rhyme or reason provided.


3: "Attacks on me"; Thats a bit like saying there "werent attacks on Trump". Theres an agenda at play here and when presented with an alternate (factual based view) its personal comments.

It just makes such posters look ignorant and intolerant to others views.


4: "You need some form of reason based argument"; Yes ive provided this too many times now. Its not been countered whatsoever.

It cant be disproven, its a fact. I see you havent even attempted to disagree...neither have others put a logical discussion point back my way.


5: "When hes doing well"; Biden doing well?

This and other posts are what Id expect to see from a Chinese or Russian 'party' member.

Youre joking right? lol you have to be kidding...thats not rational.


Once again, show me where:

A: Trump instructed his troops to flee a country in the dead of night without informing their allies and leaving behind weapons, vehicles and supplies.

Not to mention an absolute humanitarian mess they left behind with the locals on their payroll and innocent people who they betrayed.

B: Had one of the 'brand name' countries of Iran, China, North Korea or Russia (ive even added two more countries here) invade a country at the gravity and scale of Ukraine. Then forget the countries name, refuse to speak to the aggressor after inferring that a "small incursion wouldnt be punished"


There is no possible way to disprove my two

Opinions are not facts unless you can back them up.

Saying you believe they are just on your word does not make them facts.

When people challenge you on those opinions you have to be able to answer their rebuttal otherwise they are simply your opinion.

You continually ignore anyone who questions your "facts".

When people prove you wrong you continue to rinse and repeat the same argument as if you are correct.

Also putting things in bullet points doesn't make them more valid.