Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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LostLegend said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Michael Flynn: Trump pardons ex-national security adviser

Michael Flynn was among former aides convicted in an investigation into Russian election interference.
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Its really annoying how a lot of the press (at least over here) is covering this - as if the pardon is a sign of Trump's corruption, or that he's confirming he has lost or whatever.

The key thing about this is that he could have pardoned Flynn at any time he wanted to, if not before the election then certainly after it, and there is a lengthy past history of presidents doing this. What he did however was first try and deliberately (and without precedent) discredit the court system, getting Barr to openly interfere in a criminal trial and drag it through the courts to try and overturn Flynn's guilty plea. It was incredibly damaging, and is much worse than him just pardoning Flynn would have been.
 
Sassy Colombian said:
I was just talking during Trump's time. Fox news have certainly been indoctrinating people for over two decades but Trump was above any brainwashing they had allowed to happen before.
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I'd reckon Trump was the culmination of all their brainwashing. Nothing he did they thought was wrong when the slightest thing any Democratic President did was a national emergency.
 
TN Toffee said:
If some sort of legitimate third party can’t emerge in the next 5-10 years here in the US, then I’ll be convinced it simply can’t happen. It just seems like the time is ripe for a group of moderates who aren’t full stop MAGA, but also aren’t of the Bernie/AOC progressive mindset to make real headway.
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The problem, as always, is First Past The Post. It's an all or nothing thing. If a sort of ranked choice voting option was made then it is a hell of a lot more viable.
 
Drain the swamp.



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JimmyJeffers said:
In reality, what kind of influence to the ‘radical left’ have on the Democratic Party? Seems fairly fringe to me. All the top posts seem to be fairly careerist politicians. Tory Dems as @Death would say.
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JJ, I can’t give you rep in the CA. But rest assured I am venturing over to Everton forum. Finding a random jj post. And im’a open a can of positive reputation on your candy ass. For laying the smackdown just now.
 
JimmyJeffers said:
In reality, what kind of influence to the ‘radical left’ have on the Democratic Party? Seems fairly fringe to me. All the top posts seem to be fairly careerist politicians. Tory Dems as @Death would say.
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If you're surprised by the comparative lack of influence the "radical left" wields in US politics, consider that unlike pretty much every other long-industrialized Western nation, the United States has never had a nationally viable dedicated workers' party. (We'd have spelled it Labor.) The regular references to the working class (which, in the USA, almost always refers exclusively to the white working class) we've heard in the last couple of elections is a new development: From the Bolshevik Revolution (roughly) through the Cold War and up to very recent times, we've instead preferred to refer to "blue collar" Americans, a relatively anodyne reference to occupation type as a means to avoid reference to class. Even when our politics were most class-oriented (ca. 1877-1901), America's socialists tended to define and justify themselves less via Marx than via Jesus Christ.

And of course now, notwithstanding a resurgence of a (fairly mild) class politics, our politics is still mired in culture war. Feh.
 
TN Toffee said:
Glad to see he’s put golfing aside and gotten back to work today. Called the media to assemble in the press briefing room and spent one minute bragging about the Dow hitting 30k. Took no questions. Later, he granted a traditional Presidential pardon to a turkey. What a day.
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I mean, that’s literally a tradition. He’s given us plenty of real things complain about but this is probably the most normal thing he’s done.
 
sdk said:
If you're surprised by the comparative lack of influence the "radical left" wields in US politics, consider that unlike pretty much every other long-industrialized Western nation, the United States has never had a nationally viable dedicated workers' party. (We'd have spelled it Labor.) The regular references to the working class (which, in the USA, almost always refers exclusively to the white working class) we've heard in the last couple of elections is a new development: From the Bolshevik Revolution (roughly) through the Cold War and up to very recent times, we've instead preferred to refer to "blue collar" Americans, a relatively anodyne reference to occupation type as a means to avoid reference to class. Even when our politics were most class-oriented (ca. 1877-1901), America's socialists tended to define and justify themselves less via Marx than via Jesus Christ.

And of course now, notwithstanding a resurgence of a (fairly mild) class politics, our politics is still mired in culture war. Feh.
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Great post that
 
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