Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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It's neither; it's taking an action in the interests of national security to negate risk.

You forget the era this took place in - just a year earlier, France had fallen rapidly to blitzkreig and speculation was rife that a German fifth column had played a large part to facilitate it. You continue to put modern sensibilities on an issue that existed in a very peculiar setting - for them it was a very real and modern concern.
It's funny because I think there actually are some interesting questions to be asked about how much authority governments should have around this lockdown, but God have you just taken it to a crazy place.
 
I decided to watch the press conference. No change in the tone at all. More conversation about Democratic "scams" and reopening than dealing with the crisis or comforting those effected. It's shameful.
 
Was mainland USA ever actually under any threat of invasion from Japan though? I have visited many forts that were historically set up to defend our shores.

But was Japan actually planning an invasion? Help me with my ignorance.
 
It's neither; it's taking an action in the interests of national security to negate risk.

You forget the era this took place in - just a year earlier, France had fallen rapidly to blitzkreig and speculation was rife that a German fifth column had played a large part to facilitate it. You continue to put modern sensibilities on an issue that existed in a very peculiar setting - for them it was a very real and modern concern.

The notion that a fifth column had caused that was 100% wrong though - believing that it had was incredibly damaging because it gave the people who had actually failed (the ones who had ignored the British military pioneers who developed and first codified tank warfare, much of which the Germans copied) an excuse.

If t shouldn’t be forgotten either that interning those people did lead to hundreds of deaths.
 
The notion that a fifth column had caused that was 100% wrong though - believing that it had was incredibly damaging because it gave the people who had actually failed (the ones who had ignored the British military pioneers who developed and first codified tank warfare, much of which the Germans copied) an excuse.

If t shouldn’t be forgotten either that interning those people did lead to hundreds of deaths.

I didn't say it was right; I said it was believed. Firmly. So that in mind, what nation state would not act to prevent it?

It's all about cause and effect and determining the logic of a decision. For me it's very easy to see why they did what they did and, indeed, that they'd have been bonkers not to do it.

We can look back in hindsight and say that Japanese internment did sod all but that's not the point - it's that they did it because the risk of not doing it was perceived as being too high.

The fifth column concept now is all but a myth with the benefit of hindsight, but at the time it wasn't.
 
I just hope he loses support. We can't do 4 more years of this.

I read a tweet from a guy who is a lifelong Republican...work for a governor (maybe it was a senator) who said he'd crawl on hands and knees through broken glass to vote for Biden. Those narrow margins in Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin will flip so long as Biden doesn't completely F it up. AZ likely to flip too.
 
Was mainland USA ever actually under any threat of invasion from Japan though? I have visited many forts that were historically set up to defend our shores.

But was Japan actually planning an invasion? Help me with my ignorance.

No. But again, the USA had no way of knowing that.

The Japanese doctrine had shifted from taking resources from Russia to going south instead to the European colonies.


All Japan wanted to do was knock out the USA from the prospect of stopping their expansion.

Again, this is all easy with hindsight. In the eyes of America, Japan had a modern, brilliant naval fleet and had just bombed the crap out of their own naval capacity - they feared the invasion.
 
I read a tweet from a guy who is a lifelong Republican...work for a governor (maybe it was a senator) who said he'd crawl on hands and knees through broken glass to vote for Biden. Those narrow margins in Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin will flip so long as Biden doesn't completely F it up. AZ likely to flip too.
Hopefully the social distancing is done because I will be ready to drink on November 13th if it goes the right way.
 
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