Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[LinekersLegs]

 

[TN Toffee]

But the right thing to do isn't to send everyone back out into the normal world and let the disease run its course. We can't go "if they die they die" to people. The way to handle this is for the government to load up a bazooka with as much money as they can and indiscriminately fire it all over the place. Just get enough money into everyone's hands that we can make it through this without sacrificing people because no one has savings. Figure out repayment later. It isn't really important when the government can basically borrow unlimited money for free.

Then from there we have to finally restructure are hopelessly broken system that doesn't allow most Americans to have any type of reserve to handle something like this. It isn't that Americans don't save, it's that they can't. And that's because wages have stagnated while a booming economy pumps money into corporations and the 1%. We fix that and this kind of thing can be weathered a lot easier by the every day person, should it happen again.

And weirdly I ultimately agree with you that Trump is right. There very well might be a point where we have to say is it worth not restarting the economy? But we are sooo far from being there, or at least we should be, that it isn't even really worth discussing yet. I mean some states have barely even shut down anything yet. We've got to probably do at least 2 months of this to prevent a serious death toll.

As to the three bolded parts...

1. Hypothetically, if you had contracted a terminal illness and had the choice between dying within a month, or undergoing a treatment that enabled you to live for another year, but saddled your family with a million dollars (pounds) in debt, which would you choose? Obviously not an apples to apples comparison, but somewhat analogous. No right or wrong answer IMO, just something to think about.

2. SOME Americans aren't able to save due to all the circumstances you described. However, there's a good portion of the population earning a pretty good living yet still have nothing to fall back on because they're too busy keeping up with the Jones' as opposed to worrying about a rainy day.

3. If we shut our economy down for two more months, most of us may still be alive, but we'll be left to pick up the pieces of a world where the privations of 1932-33 look like a utopian paradise in comparison.

 

[TheBigIguana]

As to the three bolded parts...

1. Hypothetically, if you had contracted a terminal illness and had the choice between dying within a month, or undergoing a treatment that enabled you to live for another year, but saddled your family with a million dollars (pounds) in debt, which would you choose? Obviously not an apples to apples comparison, but somewhat analogous. No right or wrong answer IMO, just something to think about.

2. SOME Americans aren't able to save due to all the circumstances you described. However, there's a good portion of the population earning a pretty good living yet still have nothing to fall back on because they're too busy keeping up with the Jones' as opposed to worrying about a rainy day.

3. If we shut our economy down for two more months, most of us may still be alive, but we'll be left to pick up the pieces of a world where the privations of 1932-33 look like a utopian paradise in comparison.

I don't have numbers but if I was betting I'd be on the side that a majority of the people who can't survive a two month shutdown are there because they legitimately can't and not because of poor planning. The system is royally screwing over a large portion of the middle/working class in this country and this event is exposing that.

I agree we are going to have big problems if this goes on for months if the government does nothing. Which is why I said in my first paragraph that the thing to do is just throw money everywhere. As much as we can. Keep everyone afloat and figure it out later. I think we can pull that off, but it will require a lot of people to change their minds very quickly in the senate where guys like Mitch and Graham have no interest in helping a majority of people.

 

[RAFUH]

Apparently the pressers are getting significantly worse daily. I just can't even think of subjecting myself to listen to him anymore..

Last time I listened, lost count of how many times I yelled at the radio...”oh just koff”

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[ilikecheese]

I wonder where they would have gotten the idea.

 

[ilikecheese]

Calling it the Chinese Virus has consequences...

 

[tsubaki]

Calling it the Chinese Virus has consequences...

 

[TN Toffee]

Jesus Christ. In what, to that point, had been a pretty respectable press briefing by his standards, the President of the United States just said, “This is gonna be bad, and we’re trying to make it so it’s much, much less bad.”

 

[Ruairi77]

Jesus Christ. In what, to that point, had been a pretty respectable press briefing by his standards, the President of the United States just said, “This is gonna be bad, and we’re trying to make it so it’s much, much less bad.”

This is so depressing. I have friends on FB supporting him and railing against the democrats for Golding up the bill.

 

[SteveSC]

This is so depressing. I have friends on FB supporting him and railing against the democrats for Golding up the bill.

I thought "golding" up the bill would be a Republican thing haha!

 

[Aberblue]

Jesus Christ. In what, to that point, had been a pretty respectable press briefing by his standards, the President of the United States just said, “This is gonna be bad, and we’re trying to make it so it’s much, much less bad.”

He has the vocabulary of a ten year old child.

 

[summerisle]

He's getting worse by the minute.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]