Lads, if this continues warnings could be issued.
Please don’t falsely accuse folk of being Nazi’s and please don’t be racist. Both will earn a ban which could very well be permanent (certainly in the racism cases).
Just go and enjoy Xmas FFS!
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Please don’t falsely accuse folk of being Nazi’s and please don’t be racist. Both will earn a ban which could very well be permanent (certainly in the racism cases).
Just go and enjoy Xmas FFS!
Not sure why I would be banned but thanks for your intervention
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No ones called him a Nazi though, they called him a grammar Nazi which is a very common phrase all over the internet. It just means you're overly anal about other peoples grammar.
Continue with the patronism and you will find your access restricted.Not sure why I would be banned but thanks for your intervention
Righty ho thanks.
You don't need a mechanic to tell if you if you have a flat tyre equally the Shakun material is so obviously flawed you don't need a peer review paper to point out the failings. Here's a sample for bedtime reading and remember to attack the messenger rather than the detail you're letting the side down otherwise
Shakun Redux: Master tricksed us! I told you he was tricksy!
Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach The quote above is from Lord of the Rings, an exchange between Gollum and Smeagol, and it encapsulates my latest results from looking into the Shakun 2012 paper, …wattsupwiththat.com
Glad to see you concede despite the Shakun bluster it is the orbit that controls glacial events not co2
The moon landings were based on computer models devised by empirical observation - animals sent into space - climate models have no such grasp of the variables hence their failures but thanks for directing the reader to their inherent problems.
"The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible." IPCC
The Eschenbach analysis is not peer-reviewed, and yet peer-review was one of the things you were harping on when you claimed you asked "name" climate scientists if they had any peer-reviewed empirical papers for you. So you either believe peer-review or you don't, and it seems you can't make up your mind. But the Eschenbach analysis has been criticized due to its use of highly questionable transformation of the data. Also, his ice core graph, showing the uptick in CO2 has been questioned and not supported by data; many ice core reconstructions up to time present (not to 5kya ago) show a leveling off of CO2. And no offense but Eschenbach is an amateur scientist with a Psychology degree and a certificate in massage. I'm really not gonna take his word over those with actual expertise; this might sound snobby but then again I wouldn't get a massage from a climate scientist. Expertise matters.
When you write, "Glad to see you concede despite the Shakun bluster it is the orbit that controls glacial events not co2" it makes me realize that you are not a serious individual, as I had previously written about the relationship between Milankovitch cycles, CO2, and temperature, yet you are trying to score points as if in a pub. More simply, that M cycles and temperature are linked does not rule out that CO2 and temperature are linked. If you somehow made that wrong leap of logic in your head then I am clearly wasting my time with you.
If you do want to be taken seriously, you really should drop this emphasis on the ills of computer modeling. You say that "empirical observation--animals sent into space" was what allowed NASA to land people on the moon. That is quite poor reasoning. Did they send animals into space without any modeling efforts, or did they just build a rocket and hoped it was go really really high up and then come down?
The IPCC quote isn't relevant here. There have been tons of advances in non-linear dynamic modeling, even those that include chaos. You can't predict much over the long-term (due to chaos) but that doesn't mean that you can't predict over the short-term and certainly doesn't mean that modeling is inherently bad. If you want a basic introduction to nonlinear dynamics with Chaos, I would chapter 4 in "Population Ecology" by John Vandermeer and Deborah Goldberg, it is a good mostly verbal introduction with some math as well.
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Also. I'm done arguing about climate science in the Trump thread. Particularly when your go-to website is run by a former TV weather personality and includes guest posts by massage therapists with funding from the Heartland Institute.
Yep you will find I said he was a climate denier and a grammer nazi. He then took it further.
I stipulate peer reviewed evidence for man made climate doom to adhere to the self imposed rules you people hide behind even though peer review is no guarantor of veracity and in matters climate is best described as "pal review"
To illustrate the point your first port of call here was to invoke peer review ergo the fact you cannot provide a non computer modelled peer reviewed paper in support of your belief immediately destroys your bluster using your own criteria. It is not a case of choosing to believe in or not believe in peer review but an unassailable way of watching you people hang from your own petard.
As for your insults that is par for the course when the prickly subject of robust observational evidence is raised you're not the first and certainly won't be the last so I will just treat it with the contempt it deserves
NASA amended and changed models via exploratory space voyages until they were right only then did they head for the moon with humans on board the issue with climate models is they are still in the R&D stage miles off "take off" yet global policy, the equivalent of "take off", blunders on. It is a monstrous folly
I was being genuine
"you people" Interesting.
Where have I insulted you? You have made some poor leaps of logic and I said you are trying to score points as if in a pub because you can't figure out that if A and B are linked, this doesn't rule out B and C are linked. If you're offended by the fact that Eschenbach is a massage therapist, that's not an insult, just a fact.
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Any danger of shifting this (fairly ridiculous) "debate" into a more suitable thread? This one has been basically hijacked for the last 10-15 pages
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Yarmolenko ? Yes please
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You are absolutely @James1878
You absolutely reek of him. Your last sentence there is something that account would say, playing the arl victim as per. Posting style, posting in exactly the same threads and no where else, both accounts from southern cali, both have mentioned about working in IT before. We've not seen the James account since he embarrassed himself one night in another thread; low and behold the primary account Steve resurfaces a week later.
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Pretty sure i am not him. He said he was military not IT.
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