Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[DanEFC92]

Congress can overrule his emergency declaration. There is no way Republican senators would do so though.

What I mean. Can do what he likes as long as McConnell etc are knocking about.

 

[DanEFC92]

Could be close actually... ~ 10 of them are on record in the last 2 weeks saying he shouldn't declare a national emergency. That would be one hell of a flip flop, even for them.

Flake is reported to have loudly tut-tuted. Huge if true.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Flake is reported to have loudly tut-tuted. Huge if true.

lol

 

[The binman chronicles]

Your stats are worse than my stats

How haven’t the Press Corps walked out en masse at this?

They can't walk out, this stuff is gold. It's like truthful clickbait.

 

[ilikecheese]

Could be close actually... ~ 10 of them are on record in the last 2 weeks saying he shouldn't declare a national emergency. That would be one hell of a flip flop, even for them.

Just under two months ago the Senate overwhelmingly approved government funding to keep the government open. Nearly every Republican flipped their vote when the Democrats took control of the House causing the longest government shutdown in American history.

They will flip on this as well.

That's even if McConnell allows it to be voted on.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Ron Swanson]

It's important to put this to the Senate, though. The outcome is that they either legitimise a presidential abuse of power that will bite them in the ass in future, or the Senate GOP are split on the issue. The GOP didn't want this.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Just under two months ago the Senate overwhelmingly approved government funding to keep the government open. Nearly every Republican flipped their vote when the Democrats took control of the House causing the longest government shutdown in American history.

They will flip on this as well.

That's even if McConnell allows it to be voted on.

McConnell doesn't have the option not to bring this to a vote. If it passes the House (which it would) it automatically triggers a vote in the Senate.

And yeah I agree on the flip re: the funding, but that was more abstract (or rather you had to be paying closer attention to notice the flip), and they hadn't individually spoken into camera saying one thing then going the other way.

Plus there does seem to be a bit of movement in the senate away from just cow-towing to Trump - McConnell brought this last funding vote up before receiving any assurance that Trump would sign it - which he had previously said he wouldn't do.

 

[BlueTX]

Just under two months ago the Senate overwhelmingly approved government funding to keep the government open. Nearly every Republican flipped their vote when the Democrats took control of the House causing the longest government shutdown in American history.

They will flip on this as well.

That's even if McConnell allows it to be voted on.

If the House votes on it, the Senate is compelled to vote. McConnell will have no choice in the matter. The POTUS will then veto and there's not likely enough votes to override a veto. It will go to court.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

If the House votes on it, the Senate is compelled to vote. McConnell will have no choice in the matter. The POTUS will then veto and there's not likely enough votes to override a veto. It will go to court.

I don’t think he can veto something which is a vote to override something he’s done, can he?

EDIT - just read the act, he does have veto right. That’s insane.

 

[ilikecheese]

McConnell doesn't have the option not to bring this to a vote. If it passes the House (which it would) it automatically triggers a vote in the Senate.

And yeah I agree on the flip re: the funding, but that was more abstract (or rather you had to be paying closer attention to notice the flip), and they hadn't individually spoken into camera saying one thing then going the other way.

Plus there does seem to be a bit of movement in the senate away from just cow-towing to Trump - McConnell brought this last funding vote up before receiving any assurance that Trump would sign it - which he had previously said he wouldn't do.

If the House votes on it, the Senate is compelled to vote. McConnell will have no choice in the matter. The POTUS will then veto and there's not likely enough votes to override a veto. It will go to court.

I thought the House voted multiple times to reopen the government during the shutdown, but McConnell refused to bring a vote to the Senate floor.

It's mad Trump could veto this.

 

[RAFUH]

I don’t think he can veto something which is a vote to override something he’s done, can he?

EDIT - just read the act, he does have veto right. That’s insane.

Yep. Which is why some GOP will vote for it. Keep their more moderate or Libertarian credentials while knowing it will actually not go anywhere because there won't be a veto proof majority in the senate.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

I thought the House voted multiple times to reopen the government during the shutdown, but McConnell refused to bring a vote to the Senate floor.

It's mad Trump could veto this.

Yeah, but this is a different thing. The National Emergencies Act specifically outlines that a successful vote in either house automatically triggers a vote in the other

 

[tsubaki]

The Washington Post have a transcript of the whole thing. I was going to paste it here but the content was so crazy I kept getting an error message.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

The Washington Post have a transcript of the whole thing. I was going to paste it here but the content was so crazy I kept getting an error message.

Whenever you actually read transcripts of his speeches, it really drives home how clueless and... just completely out of it he really is. It's genuinely like reading a transcript of a dementia patient talking. Shares a lot of the same characteristics