the small few that come in here to clearly try bait the left
haha so questioning dodgy thinking is "baiting the Left" now.
It's like you want "the Left" (whatever that is) to be immune from criticism as any criticism of it must be trolling. I've got an idea: take power from the government via a coup then ban all criticism of your doctrine.
Folks here like Pete and dholliday et al., like to pick and choose what they like about Trump while also deriding him. That’s fine, but such a view entails that they are tacitly endorsing the baddest of Trump’s behavior
What a load of crap! Endorsing? What a laughable abuse of language. Again, it harks back to this:
you're either with us or against us doctrin
. It's utterly feeble and simple-minded thinking...i'm flabbergasted so many apparently-educated types go in for it.
These black & white logic-limiters are a massive issue as debate goes nowhere, which means realistic solutions to problems don't even get worked on. It suits only back-slapping echo-chambers...which are highly-addictive (like slot machines, they light up the
dopamine-reward part of the brain as the
likes flow in after every echo-chambery post).
Thankfully most of us are able to form complex opinions about things: where negative, positive and neutral opinions about the same subject abound...whatever whole they form isn't necessarily dependent on whatever the worst negative things might be. Anyone reading my posts about Trump properly would see my overall opinion is that he's a necessary hiccup, a spanner in the works, who will ultimately be defined by the reactions to him: in effect, it's you who's at fault for him being a damaging idiot.
And if you think that's me endorsing his worst behaviour then there's no way I can make you understand otherwise.
Just curious, what are some of Trump's "sound policies" in your mind?
Do yous find it impossible to consider that Trump, a US President, has any sound policies at all? Are you that anti that you think all his hundreds of policies are automatically
unsound? Can he do no right?
The Cult of Personality around him is so intense that either he's God's own American Saviour or he's an irredeemable demon from Satan's arsehole.
Why can't he be just a President who has some good & bad points like any other? Because honestly that's all he is, despite his comically-insane public profile.
Judge Trump on his actions, not on his words. Some actions are bad, judge them. Some are not that bad, judge them too. It's only fair. And healthy.
If you're still interested, some of his sound policies are:
That his foreign policy is concentrated on the economical aspects rather than a Rambo-esque 'god-given' right to free & protect the world. He's a businessman. That's a good thing as it should mean less dead foreign civilians when compared to Clinton/Bush/Obama tenures.
He's also allowing States to control recreationary drug legislation, which is a good thing as it leaves the door open for a liberal State to actually be liberal.
He seems to put a lot of funding into education, and has put steps into place which better prevent colossal student debt.
He supports
Made in America, which is healthy for the US economy & jobs, while also limiting the influence of the incessant
Made in China phenomenon which has swept the globe.
Decreased taxes for low-earners.
There's bound to be more if I care to look. Now you can argue the toss whether the detail behind these policies are actually working as desired, but that's a pretty detailed discussion and it'll get to the point where we're splitting hairs just because you don't want to admit some of his policies are actually...sound.
I too am curious what the in no way sexist, definitely left leaning Man likes about Trump
Yes, I'm actually a sexist rabid rightwinger pretending to be a lefty...that's the only explanation for me not categorically hating every single thing about Trump.
@everyone: my focus isn't Trump himself, what I analyse is the reaction to him from what is ostensibly my side of the fence (as believe it or not I'm from the liberal-left side of the spectrum). It's grimly fascinating and there'll be many books written about it.
I was going to ask the same question but decided to swerve another pointless back and forth.