tsubaki
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I bet you that is why Trump has gone after him.
Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon
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I bet you that is why Trump has gone after him.
bobbydigital
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Sums both of them up pretty well really.
BirkenheadBlue
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He’s gone after him because he has the temerity to be black, successful and anti-Trump at the same time
Yoda
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It was you who kept popping up dropping inuedos
As an Everton and Celtics fan, I should hate him but he comes across as smart, articulate and well thought out. As usual, trump couldn’t be further from the truth.
In the event of any confusion, I was calling Trump a tit, not LeBron.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Jimmy James
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This is a pretty comprehensive fisking of D'Souza (and by extension Don Jnr's) claims, by a German historian. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1026088160877576193.html
dholliday
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I'm not sure he differentiates on the first two so much, it's the bold bit that always gets a rise from him. He really can't take any form of criticism.
BirkenheadBlue
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Given that there are a multitude of both black and white celebs (probably more white if anything, due to nature of Hollywood etc) who have spoken out against Trump - one of those lists is disproportionately longer than the other.
I’ll give you a clue - it’s not the white one.
look at the list of black anti-Trump celebrities that he’s mouthed off at, vs the list of white ones.
Given that there are a multitude of both black and white celebs (probably more white if anything, due to nature of Hollywood etc) who have spoken out against Trump - one of those lists is disproportionately longer than the other.
I’ll give you a clue - it’s not the white one.
While formerly direct experience could easily be overcome by the voice of authority, with the Narrative discredited there is the distinct danger people might fall prey to taking the counsel of their own senses. Leon Trotsky had warned of this. "Our class enemies are empiricists, that is, they operate from one occasion to the next, guided not by the analysis of historical development, but by practical experience, routinism, rule of thumb, and instinct." Without an arc of history to justify the vanguard of progress, their failures might be regarded as exactly that.
Trotsky understood that the erosion of ideology by 'practical experience' would make it difficult for any -ists to embark on multi-decade social engineering if no results were forthcoming. The Narrative was as vital to long-term progressivism as drilling mud was to deep well oilmen. After years of steady availability they couldn't imagine it was all gone. Jim Acosta's touching belief that Donald Trump can reverse the tide of doubt by declaring the media no longer "enemies of the people" is in part a hankering after the good old days, but it assumes an authority that neither Trump nor anyone else has any more. Trump can't supply trust to the media any more than he can supply it to himself. It's everywhere out of stock. We live in an age of show-me.
However, the eclipse of the long-term Narrative is not necessarily bad. For one thing it means that not even Trumpism is likely to survive for any longer than it is needed or can justify its lease. For another it suggests that 21st century politics will be far more flexible than the glacial agendas of the past era, with vast bureaucratic inertia and interlocking interest groups replaced by rapidly shifting developments and new coalitions. We are frighteningly free now and who knows where that will lead. But the one thing that won't happen, to Jim Acosta's disappointment, is going back to Washington the way it used to be.
Perhaps the reason why Trump has not brought on the predicted apocalypse, and not been the disaster pundits have forecast, is that his chaos proved strangely in tune with the disruptive forces of the era. Despite the conventional wisdom that the West erred in choosing Brexit and failing to elect Hillary the West may by blind luck have changed course at the very moment when it needed to.
https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/the-short-lease/
There's good news for anti-Trumpers in this if you can see it. Times will march past Trump, and us, more quickly than we can imagine. Do you perceive the pace of acceleration?
Trotsky understood that the erosion of ideology by 'practical experience' would make it difficult for any -ists to embark on multi-decade social engineering if no results were forthcoming. The Narrative was as vital to long-term progressivism as drilling mud was to deep well oilmen. After years of steady availability they couldn't imagine it was all gone. Jim Acosta's touching belief that Donald Trump can reverse the tide of doubt by declaring the media no longer "enemies of the people" is in part a hankering after the good old days, but it assumes an authority that neither Trump nor anyone else has any more. Trump can't supply trust to the media any more than he can supply it to himself. It's everywhere out of stock. We live in an age of show-me.
However, the eclipse of the long-term Narrative is not necessarily bad. For one thing it means that not even Trumpism is likely to survive for any longer than it is needed or can justify its lease. For another it suggests that 21st century politics will be far more flexible than the glacial agendas of the past era, with vast bureaucratic inertia and interlocking interest groups replaced by rapidly shifting developments and new coalitions. We are frighteningly free now and who knows where that will lead. But the one thing that won't happen, to Jim Acosta's disappointment, is going back to Washington the way it used to be.
Perhaps the reason why Trump has not brought on the predicted apocalypse, and not been the disaster pundits have forecast, is that his chaos proved strangely in tune with the disruptive forces of the era. Despite the conventional wisdom that the West erred in choosing Brexit and failing to elect Hillary the West may by blind luck have changed course at the very moment when it needed to.
https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/the-short-lease/
There's good news for anti-Trumpers in this if you can see it. Times will march past Trump, and us, more quickly than we can imagine. Do you perceive the pace of acceleration?
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Rick, rolled.
It's amazing how your perspective can change depending on who is the President.
(CNN)Vice President Mike Pence once argued the president of the United States should be held to the highest moral standards to determine whether he should resign or be removed from office.
Pence made the argument in two columns in the late 1990s, where he wrote that then-President Bill Clinton's admission of an affair with a White House intern and prior lies to the public about the matter, possibly under oath, meant Clinton should be removed from office.
Yet Pence also moved beyond the specifics of the Clinton case: He made a far-reaching argument about the importance of morality and integrity to the office of the presidency.
Pence wrote the columns in the late 1990s when he was a local Indiana radio host and prominent conservative voice in the state arguing Clinton had lost his moral authority to lead the country. One of the columns, "The Two Schools of Thought on Clinton," was posted on his now-defunct website for his radio talk show. Another column, "Why Clinton Must Resign or Be Impeached," was posted on his congressional campaign website. Both columns were archived by the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. The columns ran in various Indiana newspapers at the time but did not get national attention.
Dismissing the idea that the president is "just the like the rest of us," Pence wrote, "If you and I fall into bad moral habits, we can harm our families, our employers and our friends. The President of the United States can incinerate the planet. Seriously, the very idea that we ought to have at or less than the same moral demands placed on the Chief Executive that we place on our next door neighbor is ludicrous and dangerous.
Pence's argument for removing the President
(CNN)Vice President Mike Pence once argued the president of the United States should be held to the highest moral standards to determine whether he should resign or be removed from office.
Pence made the argument in two columns in the late 1990s, where he wrote that then-President Bill Clinton's admission of an affair with a White House intern and prior lies to the public about the matter, possibly under oath, meant Clinton should be removed from office.
Yet Pence also moved beyond the specifics of the Clinton case: He made a far-reaching argument about the importance of morality and integrity to the office of the presidency.
Pence wrote the columns in the late 1990s when he was a local Indiana radio host and prominent conservative voice in the state arguing Clinton had lost his moral authority to lead the country. One of the columns, "The Two Schools of Thought on Clinton," was posted on his now-defunct website for his radio talk show. Another column, "Why Clinton Must Resign or Be Impeached," was posted on his congressional campaign website. Both columns were archived by the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. The columns ran in various Indiana newspapers at the time but did not get national attention.
Dismissing the idea that the president is "just the like the rest of us," Pence wrote, "If you and I fall into bad moral habits, we can harm our families, our employers and our friends. The President of the United States can incinerate the planet. Seriously, the very idea that we ought to have at or less than the same moral demands placed on the Chief Executive that we place on our next door neighbor is ludicrous and dangerous.
Pence's argument for removing the President
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/6/candace-owens-black-conservative-run-out-of-philly/
Maxine getting what she wanted.
Maxine getting what she wanted.
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