Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[LinekersLegs]

We do, but there's very little that can be done about that until November.

Also, it's estimated that the "relatively inconsequential propaganda" reached ~30m people, and the election was lost by a margin of 0.2% of that number.

Not only that but even Trump appointees are saying the Russia are ramping up their attacks. Whether or not you believe the hacking in 2016 made a significant difference who knows what will happen in 2018 given Trump has not shown any inclination to warn Putin against trying it again.

https://www.cnn.com/specials/live-video-1?adkey=bn
Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats raised the alarm on growing cyberattack threats against the United States, saying the situation is at a "critical point" and coming out forcefully against Russia. "The warning signs are there. The system is blinking. It is why I believe we are at a critical point," Coats said, addressing the Hudson Institute in Washington, DC, on Friday.

"Today, the digital infrastructure that serves this country is literally under attack," he said. Coats compared the "warning signs" to those the United States faced ahead of the September 11 terrorist attacks.

 

[verreauxi]

I have to say, Putin has played a blinder here. Wheeled out a sitting US President and humiliated him in front of the entire world like some Roman Triumph, and now all the patriotic 'Muricans are trying to make it out to be some Trump masterplan just so they don't have to admit they were wrong. All hail Putin and his pet orange proto-Tsar

Indeed, Putin has played Trump like a fiddle and Trump supporters are trying their darndest to do some song-and-dance to give it a positive spin. Dancers in the dark.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

Err ,what agreement?


The one where Russia get to interview Bill Browder and access all the details of,the Mueller probe ?

 

[dublinbluenose]

Err ,what agreement?


The one where Russia get to interview Bill Browder and access all the details of,the Mueller probe ?

This will give Trump and supporters a way of discrediting Mueller when the Russian security "finds" no wrong doing. Although I'd expect Mueller to be 2 steps ahead of the game.

There will have to be a smoking gun before the midterms I suspect.

 

[LinekersLegs]

This will give Trump and supporters a way of discrediting Mueller when the Russian security "finds" no wrong doing. Although I'd expect Mueller to be 2 steps ahead of the game.

There will have to be a smoking gun before the midterms I suspect.

Don’t think it going to happen despite Trump wanting it to, he can’t compel Mueller to co-operate with the Russians and I very much doubt Mueller is interested in talking to Putin’s operatives on his own soil - not least because of weird “accidents” that could occur.

And Bill Browder is a UK citizen, can’t see May agreeing to force Browder to submit to interviews with the GRU.

 

[MrPerfectNot]

Presidents have had horrible summits before (such as JFK / Khruschev in 1961), but at least they seemed to be self-aware enough to recognize when something didn't go well. http://blogs.reuters.com/berlin1961/2011/05/27/the-worst-day-of-jfks-life/

President Trump on the other hand - North Korea and Russia within weeks of each other, with NATO and UK in between - no prep, no objective achievements.

So tired of winning.

 

[LinekersLegs]

I wonder what effect this will have in the 2018 elections and on Trump support.


Unemployment is low but there hasn’t been much, if any, wage growth for a lot of people whilst costs (healthcare, gas, mortgage rates, tarriff hit goods etc) are increasing.

 

[roydo]

Unemployment is low but there hasn’t been much, if any, wage growth for a lot of people whilst costs (healthcare, gas, tarriff hit goods) are increasing.

Similar here. There is employment, and there is decent employment. Pressure on utility and housing costs.....household debt at alarming levels.

I, or rather we, are fortunate as in we dont need to earn that much to tick over, but raising a family whilst renting, (most millenials do) different story for many I would hazard a guess at.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Don’t think it going to happen despite Trump wanting it to, he can’t compel Mueller to co-operate with the Russians and I very much doubt Mueller is interested in talking to Putin’s operatives on his own soil - not least because of weird “accidents” that could occur.

And Bill Browder is a UK citizen, can’t see May agreeing to force Browder to submit to interviews with the GRU.

If they dismiss it out of hand it kind of plays into Russia's hands ab little too. There is an agreement of co-operation dating back to Reagan era which allows for what Putin sugessted.

Mueller will have to be clever in how it plays out but you'd expect he expected something like this to happen.

 

[ilikecheese]

Similar here. There is employment, and there is decent employment. Pressure on utility and housing costs.....household debt at alarming levels.

I, or rather we, are fortunate as in we dont need to earn that much to tick over, but raising a family whilst renting, (most millenials do) different story for many I would hazard a guess at.

I know Seattle is a bit of an outlier as it is truly in a boom phase of growth, but I don't know how people making a normal wage or even an above average wage can afford to buy. It was the same in the Bay Area.

As I said Seattle is an outlier, but my brother's home 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 2400 sq ft cost $875k in May of 2014. It is now valued at $1.4 mil.

It's insane.

 

[SteveSC]

I know Seattle is a bit of an outlier as it is truly in a boom phase of growth, but I don't know how people making a normal wage or even an above average wage can afford to buy. It was the same in the Bay Area.

As I said Seattle is an outlier, but my brother's home 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 2400 sq ft cost $875k in May of 2014. It is now valued at $1.4 mil.

It's insane.

My house has been on a similar trend in roughly the same amount of time too. From $799k to now being worth roughly the same as your brothers home.

In San Diego and not Seattle though but yeah same everywhere now.

 

[roydo]

cost $875k in May of 2014. It is now valued at $1.4 mil.

From $799k to now being worth roughly the same as your brothers home.

Similar here. And simply cannot last.

 

[ilikecheese]

My house has been on a similar trend in roughly the same amount of time too. From $799k to now being worth roughly the same as your brothers home.

In San Diego and not Seattle though but yeah same everywhere now.

His previous house he bought in 2005 for $419K. He sold it in May of 2013 for $455K. It is now valued at $1.0 million. 3 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1900 sq ft.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Not to mention all the free advertising for the resort his visit generated.