Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[neil999]

You've become a laughable troll on this thread, Finners. You have nothing to add; you take nothing on board. You just spout bigoted waffle - badly, for the most part - like some angry drunk in a bar who everyone wishes would just go home.

He is exactly the trump supporter we need to worry about, a (reasonably) intelligent bloke who is falling for the nonsense

 

[bring the ghost on]

Trump sued comedian Bill Maher for $5 million in 2013. Maher had appeared on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and had offered to pay $5 million to a charity if Trump produced his Birth Certificate to prove that Trump's mother had not mated with an orangutan. This was said by Maher in response to Trump having previously challenged Obama to produce his birth certificate, and offering $5 million payable to a charity of Obama's choice, if Obama produced his college applications, transcripts, and passport records. Trump produced his birth certificate and filed a lawsuit after Maher was not forthcoming, claiming that Maher's $5 million offer was legally binding. "I don't think he was joking," Trump said. "He said it with venom." Trump withdrew his lawsuit against the comedian after eight weeks.

Hahahaha

 

[bring the ghost on]

Oh boo huu what a load of humbug.
social justice warriors raging all over.
Looks like it is very fashionable to be offended and to be a victim.

Trump is the most controversial President elect in a very very long time, but yeah, if you have an opinion about his blatant racism and sexism, sexual harassment accusations and litigious history then you're a "social justice warrior", right?

 

[TheFinnFan]

You've become a laughable troll on this thread, Finners. You have nothing to add; you take nothing on board. You just spout bigoted waffle - badly, for the most part - like some angry drunk in a bar who everyone wishes would just go home.

Youre posting propaganda that tries to divide people.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Trump is the most controversial President elect in a very very long time, but yeah, if you have an opinion about his blatant racism and sexism, sexual harassment accusations and litigious history then you're a "social justice warrior", right?

It's not that simple. People do not see things like Trump haters do. Proof of that is the actual result of presidental elections.

 

[bring the ghost on]

It's not that simple. People do not see things like Trump haters do. Proof of that is the actual result of presidental elections.

Yes, but the point is we're dealing in facts not conjecture, Trump has said a lot of racially divisive things, plenty of sexist things, had a lot of litigious dealings - that much can't realistically be disputed.

Clearly, people who voted for choose to (1) accept those things are being incidental and voted for him as the lesser of two evils, (2) not believe those things, or (3) not take any offence by those things. That is their prerogative.

However, those aspects of his character are still there and as much as people have a right not to challenge them, other people have a right to engage in a discourse and question his credentials - that doesn't make them all left wing loonies (or "SJW's") does it?

 

[TheFinnFan]

Yes, but the point is we're dealing in facts not conjecture, Trump has said a lot of racially divisive things, plenty of sexist things, had a lot of litigious dealings - that much can't realistically be disputed.

Clearly, people who voted for choose to (1) accept those things are being incidental and voted for him as the lesser of two evils, (2) not believe those things, or (3) not take any offence by those things. That is their prerogative.

However, those aspects of his character are still there and as much as people have a right not to challenge them, other people have a right to engage in a discourse and question his credentials - that doesn't make them all left wing loonies (or "SJW's") does it?

He has said lost of stupid things. But if you think that for a moment ...maybe from another perspective you might find that maybe it has been part of this success story. He played media like no one. He beated media and establisment in their own game.

 

[Clint Planet]

Youre posting propaganda that tries to divide people.

No, I am posting factual pieces and opinion pieces in an effort to stimulate measured, intelligent debate about an incredibly divisive and controversial character who just so happens to have got his hands on the keys to the White House. It's fascinating how certain board members will forgive Trump just about anything when they'd be all over Obama if he'd done similar. Positively Orwellian double-think going on if people really believe Trump, a silver-spooned billionaire with a history of dodgy deals and who had never shown any meaningful interest in sticking up for the little guy in his previous 69 years, is their anointed saviour and not a repulsive sex-offending, hate-inciting demagogue-plutocrat with precious little judgment and some rather dubious acquaintances.

 

[Walken]

He has said lost of stupid things. But if you think that a moment ...maybe from another perspective you might find that maybe it has been part of this success story. He played media like no one. He beated media and establisment in their own game.

what establishment is he beating, the big business establishment?

 

[Clint Planet]

He beated media and establisment in their own game.

But that, in itself, counts for nothing, ultimately.

I do, however, agree that the neoliberal model which has allowed a super-rich gated elite to prosper at the expense of the ordinary worker has a lot to answer for. I just do not for one second believe that Trump is the man to sort it all out.

 

[bring the ghost on]

He has said lost of stupid things. But if you think that a moment ...maybe from another perspective you might find that maybe it has been part of this success story.

I wouldn't disagree with this, but exploiting something for success doesn't make it morally and ethically right does it?

 

[TheFinnFan]

I wouldn't disagree with this, but exploiting something for success doesn't make it morally and ethically right does it?

He definitely has "worked in grey area" with his style yes. But that was needed to get to the ultimately goal. He has done the unthinkable and beat ALL the odds...and became a president.

 

[bring the ghost on]

He definitely has "worked in grey area" with his style yes. But that was needed to get to the ultimately goal. He has done the unthinkable and beat ALL the odds...and became a president.

I agree, he has used demagoguery and played on peoples fears and achieved his own ultimate goal - well done to him. Does that mean we should all praise his triumph and that he's beyond criticism?

When middle eastern leaders victimise certain ethnic/religious groups as part of their strategy to attain power, is that also to be applauded?

 

[1966efc]

I agree, he has used demagoguery and played on peoples fears and achieved his own ultimate goal - well done to him. Does that mean we should all praise his triumph and that he's beyond criticism?

When middle eastern leaders victimise certain ethnic/religious groups as part of their strategy to attain power, is that also to be applauded?

Sort of agree with you but yet to see the thread, "Do Saudi Arabians Have The Penal Code of Savages?".

Far as I know, Trump has yet to crucify people or thrown them from the tops of buildings.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Sort of agree with you but yet to see the thread, "Do Saudi Arabians Have The Penal Code of Savages?".

Far as I know, Trump has yet to crucify people or thrown them from the tops of buildings.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying Trump is on (or capable of being on) that level of extremism, or that he's a despot in the making, I'm just wondering where @TheFinnFan draws the line on what are acceptable methods of winning at all costs.

My view is that if you're playing on peoples fears by placing the blame for your country not being "great" at the door of minority groups, then you're fair game to be challenged on that stance.