Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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How about we start by not spending $20-30 billion on a completely useless and purely symbolic wall?

I'm ok with the wall. We could probably offset its cost by cutting military spending and foreign aid. Better yet, we could just ask the 44% of Americans who don't pay income or payroll taxes to chip in on this one.

Of course, if you have a more cost effective way to halt the 200k-ish illegal border crossings, I'm open to it.
 
I'm ok with the wall. We could probably offset its cost by cutting military spending and foreign aid. Better yet, we could just ask the 44% of Americans who don't pay income or payroll taxes to chip in on this one.

Of course, if you have a more cost effective way to halt the 200k-ish illegal border crossings, I'm open to it.

It's just symbolic...you are not a MAGA zombie. Don't try to play one.

Technology would be far more effective.

For me I think money like that would be far better spent on education for folks in the heartland who have watched the world pass them by as they have tried for decades to hang onto jobs that don't exist anymore.

Imagine if we produced enough engineers to fulfill the need of the tech world, or enough doctors to handle our own health care needs? Investing in our people makes far too much sense to me.
 
I'm ok with the wall. We could probably offset its cost by cutting military spending and foreign aid. Better yet, we could just ask the 44% of Americans who don't pay income or payroll taxes to chip in on this one.

Of course, if you have a more cost effective way to halt the 200k-ish illegal border crossings, I'm open to it.
Didn't he promise to spend more on the military? Pretty sure he wants to do the opposite to cutting their funding. It's one of his platforms and something he said Obama did.
 
It's just symbolic...you are not a MAGA zombie. Don't try to play one.

Technology would be far more effective.

For me I think money like that would be far better spent on education for folks in the heartland who have watched the world pass them by as they have tried for decades to hang onto jobs that don't exist anymore.

Imagine if we produced enough engineers to fulfill the need of the tech world, or enough doctors to handle our own health care needs? Investing in our people makes far too much sense to me.

Didn't I just invite alternative proposals to a physical wall? The issue is whether whatever you suggest is actually an alternative. I suspect you're not particularly concerned with halting illegal border crossings, but tell me if I'm mistaken. So if we can do it with technology, and it's more effective and cheaper, let's do it.

Then we can let citizens keep even more of their money.
 
Didn't I just invite alternative proposals to a physical wall? The issue is whether whatever you suggest is actually an alternative. I suspect you're not particularly concerned with halting illegal border crossings, but tell me if I'm mistaken. So if we can do it with technology, and it's more effective and cheaper, let's do it.

Then we can let citizens keep even more of their money.

I certainly do think immigration to this country should be far easier than it is.

I also think we spend more than enough money as is on fighting against a false bogeyman.

Let's actually follow through with the America First idea by actually investing in it's people and not making the rich richer.
 
I'm ok with the wall. We could probably offset its cost by cutting military spending and foreign aid. Better yet, we could just ask the 44% of Americans who don't pay income or payroll taxes to chip in on this one.
Of course, if you have a more cost effective way to halt the 200k-ish illegal border crossings, I'm open to it.

How about we cap salaries on top-earners of companies such that they can only be 700% of the lowest earner in the same company. Why does CEO pay need to be 600 to 1? Or how about we actually enforce laws so that US employers don't employ illegal immigrants. Or how about we legalize all drugs across North, Central, and South America; this would stop people from fleeing gang/drug violence in their home country, as well as saving billions on a futile drug war. I'm all for cutting defense spending, particularly all the waste and corruption surrounding defense contracts, but not for cutting defense spending for things like veterans health care.

The wall is just symbolic expensive nonsense, as 1) it has about the same likelihood of getting built as my proposition about CEO-worker salary disparity, 2) even if built, people will find a way to get over/under it, and 3) it is still unclear how illegal immigration impacts the economy in any long-term negative way (the impacts can be negative at the municipal/regional level over the short-term).
 
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