Donald Trump for President Thread

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However i will say this Irelands premier is a school teacher, Britanins worked for the Bank of England, someone who is self made billionaire obviously has some economic savy about them. I think its important to be open minded.

I'd say it's more political savvy
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/11/nation/la-na-trump-20110511

he was not exactly born hard-up, nor has he been especially brilliant given where he started from
http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/

not every small businessman is in a position to declare $800 million dollar losses and then never pay taxes again, or fund endless lawsuits against employees you've arbitrarily decided not to pay
 
are you in Georgia?

what do you do if you don't have easy access to a computer? it's almost as if someone has asked themselves that very question
https://www.thenation.com/article/t...e-supreme-court-gutted-the-voting-rights-act/
Nope I live in Va. you can access a computer at the public library which costs nothing to join. I understamd the voting rights act was gutted, just think its more of the governement being inept than "surpressing" certain demographics. my sister had issues with her registeration and had trouble voting (for what its worth she's white)
 
driving up tuition fees doesn't help either

i think you're probably right - the trouble is, where to go from there? in the US at least, Republican politics are a self-fulfilling prophecy. the worse they make the government, the angrier people get about the poor quality of government, and the more they respond to an anti-government message.

American politics has a habit of normalizing people who once seemed vile and utterly unacceptable - Nixon, Reagan et al. Could Trump be made some day to seem moderate? Brace yourselves...

Aye, it's an interesting one. Spoke to some folks that had done a report on this very thing today, and paying 30k for a degree clearly doesn't work in a world in which that knowledge has a shelf-life of maybe 10-15 years, after which you might need to do another degree for your 2nd career.

The thing with the populists around the world is they make solutions to very difficult challenges sound absurdly easy, with the outcomes of those challenges incredibly rosy. So Trump will make America great again, but no one really knows how he plans to do that, and if you run against him on a platform of "I can make America slightly better providing we work really hard on x, y and z" that's probably a much more honest platform, but it's unlikely to win many votes.

The scary thing for me is that things have become so polarised and views so entrenched that even if Trump fails completely to improve the lot of the people that voted for him, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the blame shifted anywhere but Trump.
 
Aye, it's an interesting one. Spoke to some folks that had done a report on this very thing today, and paying 30k for a degree clearly doesn't work in a world in which that knowledge has a shelf-life of maybe 10-15 years, after which you might need to do another degree for your 2nd career.

The thing with the populists around the world is they make solutions to very difficult challenges sound absurdly easy, with the outcomes of those challenges incredibly rosy. So Trump will make America great again, but no one really knows how he plans to do that, and if you run against him on a platform of "I can make America slightly better providing we work really hard on x, y and z" that's probably a much more honest platform, but it's unlikely to win many votes.

The scary thing for me is that things have become so polarised and views so entrenched that even if Trump fails completely to improve the lot of the people that voted for him, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the blame shifted anywhere but Trump.

it would be helpful for corporations to start acknowledging what makes their profits possible by paying back the taxes that used to fund education (not the only reason why tuition fees have gone up, i know)

government equity in firms that use government-funded research seems fair, at the very least

what would silicon valley be without NSF grants? it's not just a story of heroic individual entrepreneurs
http://time.com/4089171/mariana-mazzucato/
 
Score one for the 2012 Republican autopsy. Notwithstanding last night’s “white working-class” wave, often linked to those voters’ purported latent racism and xenophobia, the net effect of Trump’s campaign was to make substantial progress with nonwhites relative to Romney’s performance in 2012.

Early Wednesday morning, exit poll data began to circulate that showed Trump improving the GOP’s standing with both African-Americans and Latinos. Less clear was just how central a role this shift played. To see the dramatic effect, compare the 2012 and 2016 exit polls that split the result by race.

In 2012, the electorate was 72 percent white (which went 59 percent Romney / 39 percent Obama) and 28 percent nonwhite (which went 81 percent Obama / 18 percent Romney), yielding a total margin of plus 3.1 percent for Obama. In 2016, the electorate was 70 percent white (which went 58 percent Trump / 37 percent Clinton) and 30 percent nonwhite (which went 73 percent Clinton / 21 percent Trump), yielding a total margin of plus 0.9 percent for Clinton.

The overall result is a 2.3 percent shift toward the Republicans. (Totals won’t sum due to rounding, and they won’t match final vote counts, because these are the exit polls.) We can allocate that shift across three changes: the shift in the mix of white and nonwhite voters; the shift in preferences among white voters; and the shift in preferences among nonwhite voters.

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The Trump campaign didn’t produce a whiter electorate. In fact, if the only change in 2016 had been in white versus nonwhite turnout, Clinton would have increased Obama’s margin by 1.7 percent. Trump didn’t dominate the white electorate—his narrow gains there only sliced 0.7 percent off the Democrat advantage. The real gain came with minorities, cutting in by 3.2 percent, leaving the popular vote within one percentage point and helping tip the Electoral College. This is even simpler to see in isolation: whether nonwhite turnout was 28 percent or 30 percent, Trump’s 11 point net gain within that group was worth more than three points to the final margin.

A better case exists that Trump’s more dramatic improvement in Midwest swing states, which ultimately gave him the Electoral College and the presidency, relied on his performance with white voters. But even there, the story is complicated. Look at Pennsylvania (2012, 2016). The electorate did shift from 78 percent white to 81 percent white. But Trump actually won a lower share of that population (56 percent) than Romney did four years earlier (57 percent). A two-point drop in Clinton’s support relative to Obama left Trump with a net gain of 1 percent. He logged a net gain of 2 percent with African Americans. He logged a net gain of 10 percent with Latinos. Further, while white turnout appears to have increased about 10 percent in the state, a 20 percent decrease in African-American turnout accounted for two-thirds of the share-shift toward a whiter electorate.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/examining-scorecard-14841.html
 
I don't think Trump will last long.
My own feeling was that he was in it to ruffle a few feathers and all of a sudden he's president elect.
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it to the Whitehouse at all (comes up with some medical excuse or something) or I certainly give him less than a year.
I think if he does make the Whitehouse and then realises he's bit off more than he can chew, he will look for an excuse to stand down.

You heard it here first.
 
Trump won fair and square, there is no doubt about that, the electoral votes is really what matters. If it had been the other way round it would of mattered eh?
Wtf are you on about. That's a map claiming the whole country loves trump because the low population areas are red. I stated that fact. I'm quite aware he won the electoral college so stop being so defensive.
 
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