Donald Trump for President Thread

[joey_macmo]

You are wrong again.

I don't know what planet you get your laws from, but here on planet Earth when a woman willingly allows a man to have his way with her it's called consent and is allowed. For if it wasn't, the human race would be in deep trouble.

For some reason you have a blind spot towards the word "willingly", as if a woman is so delicate she couldn't possibly agree with a man moving on her. Perhaps it's just third-wave feminism indoctrination. But in the real-world women often allow this kind of thing.

And when they don't allow it, then it becomes a problem. But this has nothing to do with Trump's vague and caddish boasting from ten years ago.

That you're so hung up on this is telling in itself.

I must have a blind spot for the word willingly because I think it's the first time you've used it in this discussion with me. It's interesting that you've changed from allowing to willing all of a sudden. That's because you know they have totally different meanings.

They aren't my laws they are the laws of most western countries.

"In the real world women often allow these kinds of things"

The fact you can justify and try to defend him with statements like that is the telling thing here mate.

 

[dholliday]

I must have a blind spot for the word willingly because I think it's the first time you've used it in this discussion with me. It's interesting that you've changed from allowing to willing all of a sudden. That's because you know they have totally different meanings.

They aren't my laws they are the laws of most western countries.

"In the real world women often allow these kinds of things"

The fact you can justify and try to defend him with statements like that is the yelling thing here mate.

There you go, a post from 11:47am

what crime?

willing women letting you grope them isn't a crime.

Trump is honest and that's why people like him. This latest attempt at character assassination is just confirming his honesty. Unlike Bill Clinton who has similar form but hides it under a mask of respectability.

And it was 10 years ago, ffs! He wasn't even involved in politics.

That the liberal mainstream so want him to fail is just driving more to his side.

Furthermore, "allow" can mean the same as "consent".

She allowed me to kiss her.
She allowed me to fondle her breasts.

Or from the woman's perspective:

I allowed him to kiss me.
I allowed him to fondle my breasts.


In your twisted world, these things are illegal.

Do you want to take the act of consent out of people's responsibility? Would you rather the State decide such things?

 

[The binman chronicles]

I don't quite understand how those who are so against trump can be so for Hillary. I'm all for a bit of Trump bashing, but let's be clear; Clinton is every bit as lamentable a human being as Trump is.

Care to expand how she matches up to Trump?

 

[Caolam]

I must have a blind spot for the word willingly because I think it's the first time you've used it in this discussion with me. It's interesting that you've changed from allowing to willing all of a sudden. That's because you know they have totally different meanings.

They aren't my laws they are the laws of most western countries.

"In the real world women often allow these kinds of things"

The fact you can justify and try to defend him with statements like that is the telling thing here mate.

I got sick of trying to explain the difference to dholliday, I was on the track that by not feeling you are able to complain about being assaulted is not the same as consent. You putting it in terms of allowing as opposed to willing May be clearer.
I lost interest when I thought about Trump' s own running mate not feeling he could defend him and I was arguing with a dholliday.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Care to expand how she matches up to Trump?

Her husband ran a hugely corrupt and misogynistic regime. There's also been 46 mysterious deaths relating to the Clintons. Her financial dealings are hugely murky.

This stuff is in no way a defence of Trump either who is am utter balloon. I just find it absurd that anyone could support either of these cretins.

 

[joey_macmo]

There you go, a post from 11:47am




Furthermore, "allow" can mean the same as "consent".

She allowed me to kiss her.
She allowed me to fondle her breasts.

Or from the woman's perspective

I allowed him to kiss me.
I allowed him to fondle my breasts.


In your twisted world, these things are illegal.

Do you want to take the act of consent out of people's responsibility? Would you rather the State decide such things?

You allow someone to rob your bank wen they've got a shotgun to your head.

Not a crime according to you, you've allowed them to do it.

Or in this case a woman allows her attacker to rape her when he has a knife to her throat.

Now les go back to the original statement you made

Women allowing themselves to be groped or taken advantage of isn't a crime.

You've even put the term in bold.

Your subsequent posts have shown that you clearly don't know what is or isn't against the law in this case.

It's last I'll say on the matter, it's been done before on this forum in another thread and it got closed as a result of a lot ignorance towards the law.

 

[roydo]

Her husband ran a hugely corrupt and misogynistic regime. There's also been 46 mysterious deaths relating to the Clintons. Her financial dealings are hugely murky.

This stuff is in no way a defence of Trump either who is am utter balloon. I just find it absurd that anyone could support either of these cretins.

He/She have been implicated in tons of stuff going back to Bills time in Arkansa, but no knock out blow. Odd really.

 

[joey_macmo]

I got sick of trying to explain the difference to dholliday, I was on the track that by not feeling you are able to complain about being assaulted is not the same as consent. You putting it in terms of allowing as opposed to willing May be clearer.
I lost interest when I thought about Trump' s own running mate not feeling he could defend him and I was arguing with a dholliday.

You're right mate I should have lost interest a long time ago, Finally I have. All the leading republicans have gone now including his running mate.

That says it all

 

[ToffeeTim]

He/She have been implicated in tons of stuff going back to Bills time in Arkansa, but no knock out blow. Odd really.

The deaths have been covered up no doubt. They're a nasty family.

 

[dholliday]

I got sick of trying to explain the difference to dholliday, I was on the track that by not feeling you are able to complain about being assaulted is not the same as consent. You putting it in terms of allowing as opposed to willing May be clearer.
I lost interest when I thought about Trump' s own running mate not feeling he could defend him and I was arguing with a dholliday.

You allow someone to rob your bank wen they've got a shotgun to your head.

Not a crime according to you, you've allowed them to do it.

Or in this case a woman allows her attacker to rape her when he has a knife to her throat.

Now les go back to the original statement you made



You've even put the term in bold.

Your subsequent posts have shown that you clearly don't know what is or isn't against the law in this case.

It's last I'll say on the matter, it's been done before on this forum in another thread and it got closed as a result of a lot ignorance towards the law.

You both are claiming the right of the law in relation to a vague laddish boast from 10 years ago. In those 10 years, and 4 weeks before election time, no woman has come forward to complain. Yet you are twisting the term "allow" to mean "coerced".

In any court of law, this wouldn't stand scrutiny. So why are you continuing with this?

That is the problem with your posts, and that is why you're both wrong. It's as clear as any debate I've ever had on this board.

 

[roydo]

In those 10 years, and 4 weeks before election time, no woman has come forward to complain.

How do you know that?

 

[ilikecheese]

Trump is a scumbag.

 

[dholliday]

How do you know that?

it's an interesting question: if you search you find loads of stuff like this online:

http://fusion.net/story/328522/donald-trump-accused-rape-sexual-assault/

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/


which makes it especially odd there's such a fuss about those (quite mild) comments when there's all this other material. The interesting thing is that this horrible-sounding stuff hasn't made it to the respectable mainstream papers nor on his very detailed Wikipedia.

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

Brings her gender into it, obvs you have right to dislike her and disagree with her..just find 'witch' a bit unsavoury personally

So when people call trump a d*ckhead is that wrong? (I do not support either candidate to be clear) She's a big girl and can take care of herself. Equality means equality, not faux equality with special little privileges.

 

[roydo]

it's an interesting question: if you search you find loads of stuff like this online:

http://fusion.net/story/328522/donald-trump-accused-rape-sexual-assault/

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/


which makes it especially odd there's such a fuss about those (quite mild) comments when there's all this other material. The interesting thing is that this horrible-sounding stuff hasn't made it to the respectable mainstream papers nor on his very detailed Wikipedia.

Money talks?