Dive or not????

[GhostOfDixie]

Look mate, not disputing that Gerrard made the most of it, but from where the ref saw it he had no option but to give the penalty.

If that was us you would be saying penalty to us and you know it. I'm not going to sit here and say that if AJ did that I would be complaining. You see unlike Liverpool fans I don't think that we are saints. We all make the most of situations and try to influence refs. That's just football.

 

[monty]

Any other part of the pitch and a frre kick would have been awarded. What no one has touched on is the fact initial contact was made about three to four yards outside the box, they both tumbled/dived into the box. Having looked at the through ball, it did bounce oddly which could well have put Hibbert off. Nothing we say here will change anything the t wat Gerrard got Hibbert sent off by lying, end of.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Look mate, not disputing that Gerrard made the most of it, but from where the ref saw it he had no option but to give the penalty.

If that was us you would be saying penalty to us and you know it. I'm not going to sit here and say that if AJ did that I would be complaining. You see unlike Liverpool fans I don't think that we are saints. We all make the most of situations and try to influence refs. That's just football.

ghost look you are right any fan of any club would take a pen under the same sercumstance....but thats not my point.if aj went down like that an got a pen i'd be buzzin but it dont take away from the fact it was a dive.wether we would be happy with it has nothing to do with the fact he went doen like a jap whore.never a foul,never a pen,never a sendig off!!

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Careful what you say about Japanese people there mate.

Ok, I would not say it was a dive but I would concede that Gerrard needed no excuse to go down.

 

[coyney]

Ghost first penalty watch Gerrards leg as he gets in the area he DIVED he is a cheat the so called ref holds a yellow card the cheat tells him he wants red and suddenly the cheat is now the ref as well,Penalty number two as the ball enters the box a Liverpool player clearly handles the ball yet again the Ref refuses our appeals the ball comes back and Neville dives to make the save a fair or even competent ref would have blown for the free kick hence no pen and to compound it Kuyt should have been off for his kung fu tackle and therefore could not take the penalty it says it all about the ref one player stumbles and another handles the ball both sent off a red gives the most dangerous lunge I have seen for years a red card offence and he only gets booked

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Careful what you say about Japanese people there mate.

Ok, I would not say it was a dive but I would concede that Gerrard needed no excuse to go down.

Its just a saying for fukk sake!!! you going to turn this in to a race thing!! you must be about 60+ get a fukkin grip are you a red???? you defended them enough.....we were fukkin [Poor language removed] on yesterday by the ref an that jaffer, read every other post what people say. your in a minority mate!!

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Well it wasn't an obvious dive because if it was more would have been made of it. And I never saw the handball prior to the second penalty, and again that has not been documented either.

I'm not trying to go against the grain, I do think we have been treated unfairly, but only because of the penalties we never got and the Kuyt foul that should have been a straight red.

9/10 ref's would give a penalty against Hibbert.

I'm just not going to complain against it because we never complained when Limpar dived in the same spot against Wimbledon.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Its just a saying for fukk sake!!! you going to turn this in to a race thing!! you must be about 60+ get a fukkin grip are you a red???? you defended them enough.....we were fukkin [Poor language removed] on yesterday by the ref an that jaffer, read every other post what people say. your in a minority mate!!

Chill mate, your new to this forum and some people here live in Japan and may take offence at what you said.

I'm 32 for the record. And I'm not a red, look at my posts, would I be a red and post nearly 2000 times here?

This forum is for opinions, you have yours and I have mine. I read other sources and watch news, nothing was made of the penalty, we were unlucky, but I doubt many ref's would give anything but a penalty.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Well it wasn't an obvious dive because if it was more would have been made of it. And I never saw the handball prior to the second penalty, and again that has not been documented either.

I'm not trying to go against the grain, I do think we have been treated unfairly, but only because of the penalties we never got and the Kuyt foul that should have been a straight red.

9/10 ref's would give a penalty against Hibbert.

I'm just not going to complain against it because we never complained when Limpar dived in the same spot against Wimbledon.

are you for real?? limpar!!! and thats ok for a red-[Poor language removed] to dive are you on drugs mate??? your taking this pretty easy!! that horrible **** cost us the game an to you thats ok!! please go look in the mirror an tell yourself youe a blue!!! im not a bias blue but for fukk sake!!

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Read my last post pal.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

was writing mine at the time. an no afence to anyone japanese.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

look ghost we'll have to beg to diffa ok?? i'll never have it was a pen an no way 9/10 would give it.5/10 at most.still it was a dive!!

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Ok, I was just saying - this site isn't Blue Kipper, and its more sensitive here.

No harm done though.

You can ask anyone here if I'm a red and they will say I'm not. I may be a little critical over certain players. But I would rather blame the players when they have made errors rather than mask it by officials errors. If we don't give ref's the opportunity to [Poor language removed] our game up then that's great.

If we can score goals more freely and not kick off at the one decision that has made us lose the game.

Imagine last season when we won 3-0, and they got a penalty like the first one, it wouldn't be an issue because we had comfortably won the game.

Basically I would rather look at our players rather than clutch at straws.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

look ghost we'll have to beg to diffa ok?? i'll never have it was a pen an no way 9/10 would give it.5/10 at most.still it was a dive!!

Fair enough, but it wasn't as blatant a dive to make the national press as blatant cheating. Regardless of who it was, if it was blatant it would be documented as, but it wasn't.

Time for us to move on.

 

[monty]

Ok, I was just saying - this site isn't Blue Kipper, and its more sensitive here.

No harm done though.

You can ask anyone here if I'm a red and they will say I'm not. I may be a little critical over certain players. But I would rather blame the players when they have made errors rather than mask it by officials errors. If we don't give ref's the opportunity to [Poor language removed] our game up then that's great.

If we can score goals more freely and not kick off at the one decision that has made us lose the game.

Imagine last season when we won 3-0, and they got a penalty like the first one, it wouldn't be an issue because we had comfortably won the game.

Basically I would rather look at our players rather than clutch at straws.

No we won't