2017/18 Davy Klaassen

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I'd rather bin off Sandro than Klaassen. Despite what everyone else thinks i really believe there is a great player with him. Just needs a chance to perform. Don't understand why if we aren't playing him he isn't given minutes with the 23's

Apparently players cannot be forced to play for the ressies these days. They can only be asked and they are at liberty to say no.
 
Catch 22 this. Klassen was written off by the fanbase as soon as he signed and unfortunately for him by the manager and DOF who signed him, as they barely played him, despite not being injured. However how on earth is he going to turn things around and save his career here if he isn’t given a chance to impress? My guess he will be loaned out this window (it would have been great if it was to another premier league club, but alas that looks unlikely) probably back to the Dutch league and we will subsidise his wages.

Allardyce see's him in training, and it's obvious he doesn't rate him either.
 
The lads confidence must be shot to pieces. Virtually disregarded by the management team that bought you, then hoping to be given a chance by a new manager and then finding out he doesn’t rate you either.

Agree mate, I don't actually rate him, but I feel really sorry for him, especially when you've got the likes of that coward Schneiderlin stinking the gaff out.
 

He must want out of this nightmare badly. Surely the club didn't hand all £25M over to Ajax? It'd be nice to think we could cut our losses at £5M or something and allow him back there to play in a league more suited to his limited abilities.
 
He must want out of this nightmare badly. Surely the club didn't hand all £25M over to Ajax? It'd be nice to think we could cut our losses at £5M or something and allow him back there to play in a league more suited to his limited abilities.

Thing is Dave he actually isn't that limited a player - not really suited to this league, but would do well in other leagues as long as he was brought in with an actual clue where/how to use him, think the Bundesliga would actually be a good fit for the lad.

Will take a big hit on what we paid though - in part down to having to lower any price to compensate for the huge wages comparatively we are paying him - as any buying club would have to factor that in.

Reckon we will, end up serial loaning him out to reduce the wage cost and to get some of the fee back in loan fees, then sell him on when people have forgotten what a waste of money it was
 

He'd actually do quite well IMO as the box to box player to get the ball quickly to Siggy and the wingers. He's much better in the tackle than several are giving him credit. That being said, he's not N'Zonzi or Doucoure, and he was never needed, even with the expanded squad. We overpaid for him and didn't even need him. In lieu of that and in absence of a true box to box transition guy, I'd play him. I'd probably play Davies ahead of him, but he'd at least make the bench.
 
Thing is Dave he actually isn't that limited a player - not really suited to this league, but would do well in other leagues as long as he was brought in with an actual clue where/how to use him, think the Bundesliga would actually be a good fit for the lad.

Will take a big hit on what we paid though - in part down to having to lower any price to compensate for the huge wages comparatively we are paying him - as any buying club would have to factor that in.

Reckon we will, end up serial loaning him out to reduce the wage cost and to get some of the fee back in loan fees, then sell him on when people have forgotten what a waste of money it was
A few years ago I'd have agreed that the German league would suit him. More ponderous and patient build up play than the PL. But the Bundesliga to me seems to have picked up the pace (literally) and I see more counter attacking tactics adopted by teams. I think that might be down to the German's seeking to improve their league's pull globally in order to get their snouts in the foreign tv markets. That's just my perception.

Klaassen has technique - how could he not coming through that system at Ajax? However, that club and league (and national side) is defunct because their skills are useless if they're not athletically robust enough and able to do what they have learned in academies at greater speed of thought and movement...and they're the abilities Klaassen and the rest of his peers largely dont have.
 
With the 2 recent signings we should give him another try at no 10. I think now the players around him would suit him more.
 
With the 2 recent signings we should give him another try at no 10. I think now the players around him would suit him more.
Can't play him as a no.10 with Siggy in the fit. It is just silly.
Rather us just revert back to 433 and play him in a midfield 3.
 
A few years ago I'd have agreed that the German league would suit him. More ponderous and patient build up play than the PL. But the Bundesliga to me seems to have picked up the pace (literally) and I see more counter attacking tactics adopted by teams. I think that might be down to the German's seeking to improve their league's pull globally in order to get their snouts in the foreign tv markets. That's just my perception.

Klaassen has technique - how could he not coming through that system at Ajax? However, that club and league (and national side) is defunct because their skills are useless if they're not athletically robust enough and able to do what they have learned in academies at greater speed of thought and movement...and they're the abilities Klaassen and the rest of his peers largely dont have.

Theoretically, nail on head that. The English Prem is now stuffed full with athletic Amazonian types that have no little skill but not in the main the technique of a Klaassen. I honestly have hardly seen Klaassen play - except for a couple of games in last year's Europa where he and Ajax shone all the way to the final - and that's what I still just don't get.

By all accounts Klaassen was the beating heart of that team. They (and Dutch football in general) may be a shadow of their former selves, but that campaign, on a European level, was effective and won plenty of games. So they were ultimately undone - comfortably - by United, and perhaps that's telling...

The Dutch equivalent of a Leicester? But surely Klaassen simply doesn't overnight become incapable of doing what he then did??

It's as puzzling as it is fristrating...
 

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