David Unsworth - Temporary Manager

[Toast]

Served his ban on Wednesday, mate.

Second yellow, I forgot amongst all the fume.
Thought straight red.
In that case your first side looks the one.

 

[peteblue]

Hes running late ?'

That’s it, get rid.......

 

[Joey66]

Banned isn't he ?

No!

 

[davek]

Think he just wanted the most famous manager he could get...

Thats the comical thing about it: he thought Koeman was famous for his management skills - sacked everywhere he goes and without a trophy for over a decade.

 

[davek]

Come on Dave.
Can you imagine how good Bill is at breaking bad news ?
Be tears, Dave Hickson, Betty off Corrie all mentioned..
You leave his office feeling great, only half way down the road would it click that you've been had off.

I was surprised Bill turned up at FF to give Koeman the bad news, tbh.

He must have drank a bottle of Jack Daniels on the way there.

 

[LiamG]

I knew Bolasie was still long term......but I thought Seamus was on course for a late November return

He broke his leg. We won't be seeing him until February or March and even then he probably won't be "ready" until the world cup.

 

[Toast]

He must have drank a bottle of Jack Daniels on the way there.

Wouldn't be the first time..

 

[Blues Harp]

Four points from the next six available and that caretaker role is going to extend past the international break.

We are desperate for someone to just slam the hand brake on and stop the roll back. It's all about stabilising now.

I said all along: get rid of that clueless Dutchman and then hand Unsworth the role with the message he gets the job end of the season if he gets us to midtable. The players want him as their boss. No question of that.

The alternative is hiring some other face from outside and the Anarcho-Syndicalist group AKA the Everton squad possibly start another revolt...and then we ARE in a mess.

Your choice Toffee.

You haven't blamed the fans yet.....Oh wait

 

[catcherintherye]

Thats the comical thing about it: he thought Koeman was famous for his management skills - sacked everywhere he goes and without a trophy for over a decade.

I don't think the Koeman affair has been Moshiri's finest hour. In truth Koeman would have been far better staying at Southampton where he had built up good will.

Unsworth handled the question very well when he said "we want a winning manager". That is the be all and end all of it. I've seen journalists and fans read into what Moyes, Martinez and Koeman said, at various times and twist it into a positive or negative. It's all largely irrelevant. What matters is winning.

If you are serious about having a "Hollywood of football" you can't leave Kenwright, Elstone and to a lesser degree Woods in charge of running your football club. Any opportunities that could come from that will be wasted.

 

[davek]

I don't think the Koeman affair has been Moshiri's finest hour. In truth Koeman would have been far better staying at Southampton where he had built up good will.

Unsworth handled the question very well when he said "we want a winning manager". That is the be all and end all of it. I've seen journalists and fans read into what Moyes, Martinez and Koeman said, at various times and twist it into a positive or negative. It's all largely irrelevant. What matters is winning.

If you are serious about having a "Hollywood of football" you can't leave Kenwright, Elstone and to a lesser degree Woods in charge of running your football club. Any opportunities that could come from that will be wasted.

I think Moshiri got sucked into the "Koeman to Arsenal" and "Koeman's on Barcelona's radar" stories and took them at face value.

In reality no one was coming in for Koeman from any club better than Everton. He was sold a pup. A pretty humiliating situation for an apparently savvy businessman.

 

[catcherintherye]

I think Moshiri got sucked into the "Koeman to Arsenal" and "Koeman's on Barcelona's radar" stories and took them at face value.

In reality no one was coming in for Koeman from any club better than Everton. He was sold a pup. A pretty humiliating situation for an apparently savvy businessman.

I think Koeman interviewed well. At some level I can understand Moshiri's thinking. There's not enough ruthlessness at Everton, it's an old boys club, a nice club and that has to change. However his mistake was thinking this could be changed by a first team manager, particularly one who's main interest (largely sole interest) seemed coaching the first team. He has fudged making the changes necessary at board level where we really needed to be more ruthless.

In many ways these players have let managers down, but in others they are paid a long way below the other 6 sides in the league and broadly finish in and around where we would expect. They bottle big league games away from home and cup games but they don't do half badly overall. Certainly not so badly that we needed that level of ruthlessness coming in all the while rewarding Elstone with a role at board level.

I saw Timak made a great point earlier. What we can't afford to do is become like Aston Villa and West Ham did. Thats how it feels a bit to me. Rather than taking an approach that allowed us to broadly punch above our weight and tinker with it, perhaps give a bit more money in that direction, we tried to rip it up and most of our signing look like Martin O'Neil signings.

It's very odd, but Kenwrights football intuition is pretty good. he kind of knew the sort of managers we needed to do well, albeit in circumstances that are restrictive and caused by his lack of ambition. Until Moshiri boots out the old guard and gets some top people in those jobs to grow a business, (Gill, Zorc etc) then Kenwrights instincts oddly probably suit us more easily.

 

[orly]

I think Koeman interviewed well. At some level I can understand Moshiri's thinking. There's not enough ruthlessness at Everton, it's an old boys club, a nice club and that has to change. However his mistake was thinking this could be changed by a first team manager, particularly one who's main interest (largely sole interest) seemed coaching the first team. He has fudged making the changes necessary at board level where we really needed to be more ruthless.

In many ways these players have let managers down, but in others they are paid a long way below the other 6 sides in the league and broadly finish in and around where we would expect. They bottle big league games away from home and cup games but they don't do half badly overall. Certainly not so badly that we needed that level of ruthlessness coming in all the while rewarding Elstone with a role at board level.

I saw Timak made a great point earlier. What we can't afford to do is become like Aston Villa and West Ham did. Thats how it feels a bit to me. Rather than taking an approach that allowed us to broadly punch above our weight and tinker with it, perhaps give a bit more money in that direction, we tried to rip it up and most of our signing look like Martin O'Neil signings.

It's very odd, but Kenwrights football intuition is pretty good. he kind of knew the sort of managers we needed to do well, albeit in circumstances that are restrictive and caused by his lack of ambition. Until Moshiri boots out the old guard and gets some top people in those jobs to grow a business, (Gill, Zorc etc) then Kenwrights instincts oddly probably suit us more easily.

????

Kenwright nearly appointed Megson and did appoint Martinez.

He has the footballing instincts of cottage cheese

 

[davek]

I saw Timak made a great point earlier. What we can't afford to do is become like Aston Villa and West Ham did. Thats how it feels a bit to me. Rather than taking an approach that allowed us to broadly punch above our weight and tinker with it, perhaps give a bit more money in that direction, we tried to rip it up and most of our signing look like Martin O'Neil signings.

It's very odd, but Kenwrights football intuition is pretty good. he kind of knew the sort of managers we needed to do well, albeit in circumstances that are restrictive and caused by his lack of ambition. Until Moshiri boots out the old guard and gets some top people in those jobs to grow a business, (Gill, Zorc etc) then Kenwrights instincts oddly probably suit us more easily.

All summer it was obvious that there was a massive overspend on players of dubious quality. I said at the time they were finite resources - the type of windfall from a big sale that happens every generation (two if you're lucky as we had with Stones and Lukaku).

Moshiri employed and indulged a manager who wanted to spend his way to respectability...not success, respectability.

It was an irresponsible appointment - poorly thought through and will cost us for years to come.

I suspect someone like Gill would have the same reaction to Birch all those years ago: straight in the front door and back out a few months later shaking his head.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Tim Sherwood is firmly on Team Unsworth. Why am I not surprised lol

 

[Ibby]

Give the job to Unsworth he got the respect from the fans, and the players.