Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
A lot of these late goals that we have scored that have gained us points are more of a sign of weakness than strength . Without them we would be down in the bottom 6.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
We've gained as many points from losing positions as we've lost from winning positions so we are where we deserve to be.
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If he stays next season then the season becomes a sideshow about his contract which would expire in the summer. If he stays I think the owners have to give him a new deal.
Scoring late is always a positive, but a fair few late goals have masked some awful performances.
Lob
Player Valuation: £60m
Got it wrong again yesterday and is throwing away the best chance we have had for qualifying for Europe in years. We are going to end up finishing mid table which is okay considering where we were the last few years but the opportunities for something better have been there for the taking had we had a less stubborn and more adventurous manager in charge.
Couldn't believe it when i seen Barry on the team sheet again especially after the Derby. It was an insane and cowardly decision. Try something different ffs. Boring me to tears in this run in and failing at every hurdle.
Couldn't believe it when i seen Barry on the team sheet again especially after the Derby. It was an insane and cowardly decision. Try something different ffs. Boring me to tears in this run in and failing at every hurdle.
Bluebonic
Player Valuation: £40m
I try hard to be objective and fair minded when reviewing this season because so many of the fan base have polarised into the Moyes is great or the Moyes is dreadful camps. The truth is he is neither. He is solid manager, as safe pair of hands and if we stick with him we will probably never flirt with relegation again.
For many that will suffice for now, the stress and anxiety we have all suffered over the past three or four seasons have left many to feel (quite reasonably) that a period of mid-table stability is a marked improvement, which is a fair and reasonable take on things.
For others though, whilst he has undoubtedly brought is away in very quick order from the annual end of season nail-biting, he has also brought back with him all the old flaws and habits that rendered him so unpopular with the fan base towards the end of his last tenure. His internal glass ceiling, that sees him show ‘big’ clubs far too much respect. His aversion to changing his preferred line up even when one or more are patently underperforming.
So in my mind, both of the polarised fan bases have equal grounds to praise / slate him, but the worrying thing for me is that there is almost no middle ground, which does not bode well for us going forward. I have always stated that I didn’t want him back. Not because of anything has said or did when he joined ManU, simply because it almost never works out. Having said that, I would have no issue with him being allowed to see out his current contract provided he can demonstrate the ability to change those old habits. That he can be assertive with his tactics, that he can recognise that his preferred team may not be performing and try alternatives in those positions that are not functioning.
If he can show that between now and the end of the season, I would be more than happy for him to be here next season, to see if he can carry those changes in his mentality onwards. If he does not though, I think the price of stability does not balance against the price of another season of frustration, of slow predictable play at HDS, and of seeing the same old faces rolled out week after week, regardless of their form? This season, more than any other I have struggled to get excited for an upcoming game. That is in some large due to the travel issues, number of night games etc. but it is also very much down to the grim inevitability of seeing the same out of form players serve up the same turgid displays yet still get 70~80 minutes on the pitch, driving us all mad before they are substituted. Change it up Moyesy lad, and win a lot of the haters back. Remain stuck in your furrow and (for me at least) you don't deserve another season.
For many that will suffice for now, the stress and anxiety we have all suffered over the past three or four seasons have left many to feel (quite reasonably) that a period of mid-table stability is a marked improvement, which is a fair and reasonable take on things.
For others though, whilst he has undoubtedly brought is away in very quick order from the annual end of season nail-biting, he has also brought back with him all the old flaws and habits that rendered him so unpopular with the fan base towards the end of his last tenure. His internal glass ceiling, that sees him show ‘big’ clubs far too much respect. His aversion to changing his preferred line up even when one or more are patently underperforming.
So in my mind, both of the polarised fan bases have equal grounds to praise / slate him, but the worrying thing for me is that there is almost no middle ground, which does not bode well for us going forward. I have always stated that I didn’t want him back. Not because of anything has said or did when he joined ManU, simply because it almost never works out. Having said that, I would have no issue with him being allowed to see out his current contract provided he can demonstrate the ability to change those old habits. That he can be assertive with his tactics, that he can recognise that his preferred team may not be performing and try alternatives in those positions that are not functioning.
If he can show that between now and the end of the season, I would be more than happy for him to be here next season, to see if he can carry those changes in his mentality onwards. If he does not though, I think the price of stability does not balance against the price of another season of frustration, of slow predictable play at HDS, and of seeing the same old faces rolled out week after week, regardless of their form? This season, more than any other I have struggled to get excited for an upcoming game. That is in some large due to the travel issues, number of night games etc. but it is also very much down to the grim inevitability of seeing the same out of form players serve up the same turgid displays yet still get 70~80 minutes on the pitch, driving us all mad before they are substituted. Change it up Moyesy lad, and win a lot of the haters back. Remain stuck in your furrow and (for me at least) you don't deserve another season.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
He's 60 mate, he ain't changing. If anything he's become even more conservative.
I'm 100% with you, but also re: the last part - he hasn't changed his ways for over 2 decades, changing them now is highly unlikely to say the least; him showing it for 4 games would be a miracle, but it means very little as he'll be back to himself after that anyway, it's just who he is, and he seems to be doubling down on that nowadays.
Bluebonic
Player Valuation: £40m
It was said more in hope than expectation.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
If you want hope we need a new manager who doesn't fear the opposition.
kenada_blue
Welcome to Barcelonaton FC
We're a weird bunch going from one extreme to another
Gone from the last 3-4 seasons at the bottom end, 2 of them literally last game to stay up, to straight being comfortably midtable, near Europe, knowing full well the squads lacking...
...And its not good enough.
We know whats lacking. If Moyes gets what the team and he needs and THEN fails...then its time to look on.
Meanwhile. Its his first full season back and we've done well from where we were.
At least get it right he's 63 and his birthday was yesterday
Paul Rideout
Player Valuation: £40m
We set up not to lose, home or away, no matter the opposition. It’s how he is.
Fonzy
Player Valuation: £8m
You need clarity
Plus if he is here for 12 months only he can’t be given control over the transfers…but if he’s not and the transfer comity sign say 8 young players Moyes won’t trust them so they won’t play
That is a dire situation…as Moyes would want more experienced signings 26/27 year olds but have no sell on value
It's good init when your manager throws away domestic cup games and plays chit players for months on end with the same predictable outcome, while watching teams with League One stadia qualify for Europe and actual Championship teams get within a whisker of the FA Cup final.
