2025/26 David Moyes

[DualityNSNO]

We were in a relegation spot when he came in during March and he out us out of it. Second full season he piled up enough points to get us safe but 17th.

This was a man who positioned himself as a relegation concerned manager: "get to 40 points ASAP". That was his mentality.

Yeah and then if you ignore literally everything else and not include the seasons after - he's a relegation specialist.

OK Matey.

 

[davek]

Yeah and then if you ignore literally everything else and not include the seasons after - he's a relegation specialist.

OK Matey.

His own words: "Let's get to 40 points" - literally every season with us.

Got brought to Sunderland to try and keep them up after flirting with relegation the previous season; ditto West Ham where he was brought into twice when they were facing relegation scraps.

I think that just about satisfies the relegation manager tag.

 

[hetion]

It's not in relation to the context it was addressed, being we spent a club record amount but Moyes had to replace players, like Calvert-Lewin - who we allowed to leave.

In another world, recruitment pay him the £120k a week, and we spend Barry money elsewhere.

Calvert-Lewin gets an injury next week though, and Barry goes on and does well. Suddenly, the decision proves a good one.

Keeping Calvert-Lewin to me made sense, but then I also understand why the club said no.

I rate DCL a lot more than most I think, and would have much preferred to have him over Beto, and I still think we did the right thing *at the time* of setting a hard salary limit. Much better practice in the long term.

 

[jceverton]

Dude, that's all BS. You're the footballing equivalent of a flat earther.

Another ad hominem post. Do you have any actual arguments?

 

[MikeH72]

What...your smoking gun is me saying if we didn't have a relegation specialist here we'd be relegated...and then we actually did replace one with another one?

You certainly didn’t see him as a relegation specialist at the time when you wanted him sacked for Gareth Southgate to keep us up.

Post in thread 'New manager'

January 17, 2025

Not a wum people will have you believe.

My only desire is to see Everton safe.

Moyes wont do it and these players need a boost. Southgate would hand us it. Illd hand these players self belief. And boy do they need it.

• davek

 

[Swartzy]

This is the thing really. 'Taking time' after 40 years of being a quite awful football club is so frustrating, especially since the Moshiri spending spree years, having seen clubs like Nottingham Forest qualify for Europe despite having been out of the Premier League 20-odd years, and Aston Villa, who were every bit as bad as us when we had Gerrard and Lampard respectively, Champions League regulars and now Premier League contenders with an excellent manager. Everton being the team still in transition, still coming nowhere near close to any domestic cups despite teams like Palace, Leicester, Newcastle, Wigan having won cups over the past 10 or so years... little old Everton not being capable of enjoying even this minor success - frustrating.

This is why you need to look at the next 2 Windows, we went into the summer window not respecting that we weren't as big an appeal as we thought. which resulted in grabbing what we can, Bar KDH/Grealish, in which Jack was just as much the clubs statement signing..

That window has passed now, we can't change it. We can just use it as a learning curve.

 

[hetion]

Most people are morons Matty. Think about how dumb the average person is and then factor in that most people are even dumber than that.

There's a glorious irony in this post not understanding how averages work

 

[Swartzy]

Emery got them to 7th and Europe in half a season, having been bottom 6 under Gerrard

Gerrard did completely mess up a pretty decent squad tho, Villa certainly weren't a bare bones team.
The are a bad example to choose..

 

[Swartzy]

You obviously weren't around for our first two seasons under him.

Your gassing mate, even you said you loved Moyes for about 7/9yrs

 

[Saint Domingo]

Will be a very interesting second half of the season. The big change at Everton now is that no one will be able to rest on their laurels. He needs to push the board for January signings and if the Friedkins back him again then they’ll want results. The summer was the fifth highest net spend in the league.

The summer will probably be the period that they consider a contract extension or a change of manager (as he’ll have one year left). The opportunity is therefore there to take us into Europe this season and go on a cup run. I’m just not sure that turning in 11th or 12th and saying look at the stability will be enough for the Freidkins. They will want Europe, revenues that come with that, and ultimately to be win trophies and be competitive. The predictable limp showings at Liverpool Chelsea Arsenal City Spurs Newcastle to not even gain a single point and only score one goal are not helping him, especially after doing so well to get the monkey off our back of winning at Old Trafford.

If we’d seen out the game after going 1 up against a terrible West Ham team, and picked up anything from that run of top half teams then the table would be looking extremely promising but there’s just this feeling that every time we look like we’re about to push on, the players collectively just phone one in and we get the Newcastle game or the first half an hour of the Derby, or major individual errors that just undercut the momentum.

We could be sat here in the European places and in the QF of the carabao cup with just a bit more care and attention but the only response back to this would be Moyes saying yeah but if we lost a few more we’d be looking over our shoulders again. I just don’t think the Friedkins will see it that way.

It’s a huge second half of the season.

 

[Roger Milla]

He can't be that much of a relegation specialist, he took Sunderland down after Allardyce, Advocaat, Poyet, Di Canio, O'Neill, Steve Bruce and Sbragia all kept them up. No wonder they can't stand him if that lot saved them.

I'm prob forgetting a few other numpties.

 

[MikeH72]

He can't be that much of a relegation specialist, he took Sunderland down after Allardyce, Advocaat, Poyet, Di Canio, O'Neill, Steve Bruce and Sbragia all kept them up. No wonder they can't stand him if that lot saved them.

I'm prob forgetting a few other numpties.

Very creative contorting of reality this one, actually impressed.

 

[davek]

You certainly didn’t see him as a relegation specialist at the time when you wanted him sacked for Gareth Southgate to keep us up.

Post in thread 'New manager'

January 17, 2025

Not a wum people will have you believe.

My only desire is to see Everton safe.

Moyes wont do it and these players need a boost. Southgate would hand us it. Illd hand these players self belief. And boy do they need it.

• davek

How is saying he's a relegation manager and me saying he wont keep us safe a contradiction? He couldn't keep Sunderland up either.

Maybe put your thinking cap on next time?

Your gassing mate, even you said you loved Moyes for about 7/9yrs

I supported him, I didn't say I 'loved' him.

I was glad to see him arrive and build a solid foundation for us in dire times. But then he ruined that by trying to project himself as big as this football club (just as if that amoeba could ever be that) and rubbished the fans and protected the worst owner in Everton history.

 

[COYBL25]

Can someone unplug the Grinch over Christmas please ?

 

[MikeH72]

How is saying he's a relegation manager and me saying he wont keep us safe a contradiction? He couldn't keep Sunderland up either.

Maybe put your thinking cap on next time?


I supported him, I didn't say I 'loved' him.

I was glad to see him arrive and build a solid foundation for us in dire times. But then he ruined that by trying to project himself as big as this football club (just as if that amoeba could ever be that) and rubbished the fans and protected the worst owner in Everton history.

You just said he’s a “relegation specialist” meaning a specialist in surviving relegation? You didn’t think that in January, you thought he was taking us down and wanted Gareth Southgate to replace him, a manager that’s been relegated in 100% of his jobs in club football